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It's just really short sighted of them. Wrangler has 4 powertrain options, Gladiator has one. The color choices suck. They're over priced. Maybe address 2 of those 3 and you won't have sales tank. Maybe address all 3 and they'll actually go up....But this has been the general downfall of Stellantis the last few years and despite the leadership shake up, all I've heard is a bunch of talk and a few price drops but zero action on the product side. I would be a day 1 buyer of a Gladiator 4xe that could tow 6k lbs (fine if it's a little lower than non 4xe, but not way lower). I would even be ok with the shitty colors and pricing if it could do that. They've been promising it for years but no follow through...
I think that is the issue with any 4Xe Gladiator. The 4cyl turbo can't tow more than 3500lbs. Defeats the purpose of having a truck and would defeat their marketing plan.
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I like the idea of the 4xe and wouldn't mind one. But how are they holding up issue wise in the wrangler? Do you still need to park it outside?
 

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This is an interesting article about the new ZF 8HP80PH transmission to be used in the 2026 4xe wrangler and gladiator.
https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...sion-technology-2026-4xe.144882/#post-3027372
https://[Banned Site]/2026-jeep-wrangler-and-gladiator-4xe-models-will-get-this/
I will believe it when I see it. Laying off 1100 workers and cutting back JT production along with indefinitely postponing 4Xe JT gives me little confidence it will ever be produced. Lokling at their hunters 332lb ft of torque in electric mode isn't going to be chit when you're running on gas or trying to tow after your 22 miles of battery life. That 4cyl motor isn't going to tow 5000 lbs. I don't see performance gains overall from the 3.6 except in electric mode and.cant see anything other than the 550hp hurricane motor or at minimum a 5.7 hemi to get close to saving the Gladiator from its rumored end when the new Ram truck comes out.
 

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This is an interesting article about the new ZF 8HP80PH transmission to be used in the 2026 4xe wrangler and gladiator.
https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...sion-technology-2026-4xe.144882/#post-3027372
https://[Banned Site]/2026-jeep-wrangler-and-gladiator-4xe-models-will-get-this/
Yeah, I saw that and was surprised there wasn’t more discussion here about this development. I mean most everyone here wants more power and this “transmission” nearly doubles the hp and torque output while also increasing the electric only range. Seems like a win, win, win.
 

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Yeah, I saw that and was surprised there wasn’t more discussion here about this development. I mean most everyone here wants more power and this “transmission” nearly doubles the hp and torque output while also increasing the electric only range. Seems like a win, win, win.
We were early adopters with the 2021 4xe wranglers when it first came out and now the 4xe grand Cherokee. Have loved both. The transmission improvements look promising.
 

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I spent the last few days at a Jeep Jamboree where I had the opportunity to talk to 4Xe Wrangler owners. After hearing what they say, there is no way that I would buy any 4Xe and I was actually looking to get a left over 24 JL. Terrible off road, electric mode doesn't last long the 4cyl turbo had terrible turbo lag that when going over an obstacle it will suddenly launch you when the turbo kicks in. There is a recall that detunes the battery pack to cut back on torque and possibility of overcharging and causing a fire. The recall cuts the electric mode distance from 22 miles to 12 miles. One person had towing experience, said it has no power towing and MPG is terrible towing. MGP highway on gas mode is about 17. You would not want to go to 35" or 37s with the 4Xe as performance will suffer even worse.

Made my mind up NOT to buy the JL version and based on what they told me YOU don't want a JT version either
 

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I spent the last few days at a Jeep Jamboree where I had the opportunity to talk to 4Xe Wrangler owners. After hearing what they say, there is no way that I would buy any 4Xe and I was actually looking to get a left over 24 JL. Terrible off road, electric mode doesn't last long the 4cyl turbo had terrible turbo lag that when going over an obstacle it will suddenly launch you when the turbo kicks in. There is a recall that detunes the battery pack to cut back on torque and possibility of overcharging and causing a fire. The recall cuts the electric mode distance from 22 miles to 12 miles. One person had towing experience, said it has no power towing and MPG is terrible towing. MGP highway on gas mode is about 17. You would not want to go to 35" or 37s with the 4Xe as performance will suffer even worse.

Made my mind up NOT to buy the JL version and based on what they told me YOU don't want a JT version either
Wow, this is not my experience with my 4XE Wrangler. No loss of miles for the recall software fix, no loss of torque that I can feel. I've towed a small trailer and had plenty of power but the gas mileage dropped to 14-15 from the usual 17-20 when running on plain hybrid. I've heard all those issues you mentioned from the internet but have not experienced anything like that on my vehicle. Is it perfect? No, but it's been great for my use so far and I've been waiting on the Gladiator 4XE for some time now. Really looking forward to how it performs if (when) Jeep releases it.
 

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Wow, this is not my experience with my 4XE Wrangler. No loss of miles for the recall software fix, no loss of torque that I can feel. I've towed a small trailer and had plenty of power but the gas mileage dropped to 14-15 from the usual 17-20 when running on plain hybrid. I've heard all those issues you mentioned from the internet but have not experienced anything like that on my vehicle. Is it perfect? No, but it's been great for my use so far and I've been waiting on the Gladiator 4XE for some time now. Really looking forward to how it performs if (when) Jeep releases it.
I wish you luck IF they ever release it. From what I heard and saw this weekend, they are best used to get groceries. Down right scary and even dangerous to see one crawling over an obstacle then launching forward when turbo kicked in. Everyone talking about it. If I were looking for a back and forth to work vehicle or to use for errands, I'd get one. The other thing that came up was Bill Luke Jeep seems to buy all the 4Xe buy backs they can from Jeep, and resell them at deep discounts and they have lots of them for sale. I was also told by a manager at a national chain of salvage yards that they have a contract with Jeep to salvage buy back 4Xe models and they have tons of them. Makes me even question them more. I really was seriously considering buying one, was even shopping before this weekend but no more. I just don't have the confidence to pull the trigger I am however glad to see you like yours.
 

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4xe drives differently and reacts differently.
There is good discussion of this in the JL Forum.
Once you understand how it wants to operate it helps.
 

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4xe drives differently and reacts differently.
There is good discussion of this in the JL Forum.
Once you understand how it wants to operate it helps.
The big thing to consider and you should is that the 4Xe s the most lemon law buy backs of any other vehicle. Check this out.....
4xe drives differently and reacts differently.
There is good discussion of this in the JL Forum.
Once you understand how it wants to operate it helps.
Well maybe this news article that I read yesterday might people reconsidering a 4Xe. I've read elsewhere that the 4Xe has the most lemon law buy backs than ANY other Hybrid. I've also been told that the Gladiator has the highest warranty issues of ANY Jeep. All of this and Jeeps overbuilding Gladiators and having to discount them, making them cheaper than buying a used one or two year old model has killed the market and prices.


"1. Jeep: Loyalty vs. Reliability – A Tough Choice for Buyers© Image: Wikipedia
Jeep owners stay loyal despite more repair guides than adventure stories appearing in owner forums. These American icons have ranked in the bottom five for reliability for seven years straight and have the most lemon law claims in the industry. Wranglers and Gladiators earn “Trail Rated” badges by conquering tough terrain, but suffer from leaking roofs, dead electronics, and death wobble – a violent shaking at highway speeds affecting 78% of high-mileage Jeeps. The 4×4 systems with 4:1 low gears work great off-road, but 20% of owners face $3,000 differential repairs with parts often backordered for 3 months. Jeeps have 30% more problems than average vehicles and lose 51% of their value after five years – the worst in the industry. Yet somehow 73% of owners buy another Jeep. The Jeep lifestyle seems worth the headache to many, though “headache” means 3.4 unexpected repair visits yearly and $8,500 in surprise costs over five years."
 

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I spent the last few days at a Jeep Jamboree where I had the opportunity to talk to 4Xe Wrangler owners. After hearing what they say, there is no way that I would buy any 4Xe and I was actually looking to get a left over 24 JL. Terrible off road, electric mode doesn't last long the 4cyl turbo had terrible turbo lag that when going over an obstacle it will suddenly launch you when the turbo kicks in. There is a recall that detunes the battery pack to cut back on torque and possibility of overcharging and causing a fire. The recall cuts the electric mode distance from 22 miles to 12 miles. One person had towing experience, said it has no power towing and MPG is terrible towing. MGP highway on gas mode is about 17. You would not want to go to 35" or 37s with the 4Xe as performance will suffer even worse.

Made my mind up NOT to buy the JL version and based on what they told me YOU don't want a JT version either
My experience has been the opposite and I've both towed and off roaded my '24 4xe heavily. I towed 5000lbs over a thousand miles in the middle of July during last summers heat wave. It did great but you could not pin it to the floor and expect it to stay cool, unlike the v6. The electric never cut power and it towed markedly better than the v6. Like night and day better. That's why I want a JT version. Likely those that had issues were not starting with a charged battery and running esave mode. That is essential to keeping power. I made sure I started with 20% battery or more and it never ran to zero, even in the biggest hills. Lowest it got was 4% going up the mass tpk which did a 200' to 1700' elevation change in one straight shot, and it charged back to to 20% on the downhill. I had to slow to 55mph to keep the temps under 240 in that climb, that was the only limitation.

I've had no recall for battery and range is still 22 miles. I got 9-10mpg towing which is exactly what I got in my v6 gladiator. Not towing it gets 1-2mpg better than the '18 jlur I had and has 80hp more and 200lbs ft torque more. I can also do 2/3 of my daily commute on battery power alone. A JT with the new zf power train would be absolutely killer. But I have zero faith in stellantis to deliver right now.
 

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My experience has been the opposite and I've both towed and off roaded my '24 4xe heavily. I towed 5000lbs over a thousand miles in the middle of July during last summers heat wave. It did great but you could not pin it to the floor and expect it to stay cool, unlike the v6. The electric never cut power and it towed markedly better than the v6. Like night and day better. That's why I want a JT version. Likely those that had issues were not starting with a charged battery and running esave mode. That is essential to keeping power. I made sure I started with 20% battery or more and it never ran to zero, even in the biggest hills. Lowest it got was 4% going up the mass tpk which did a 200' to 1700' elevation change in one straight shot, and it charged back to to 20% on the downhill. I had to slow to 55mph to keep the temps under 240 in that climb, that was the only limitation.

I've had no recall for battery and range is still 22 miles. I got 9-10mpg towing which is exactly what I got in my v6 gladiator. Not towing it gets 1-2mpg better than the '18 jlur I had and has 80hp more and 200lbs ft torque more. I can also do 2/3 of my daily commute on battery power alone. A JT with the new zf power train would be absolutely killer. But I have zero faith in stellantis to deliver right now.
Still statistics don't lie. 4Xe has the highest lemon law complaints of any vehicle Jeep or otherwise and you might have a good one buy many thousands do bot so why take a chance?
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