AEV Dualsport HC vs Clayton overland plus

[rEbell8762]

Help me decide. I know these are a little different lifts but I’ve decided on either the Clayton overland plus 2.5-3.5 lift or AEV dual sport with high capacity springs on my 23JTR. I’ve read about every thread I can find on these lifts and both seem to get high praise but while I initially was set on AEV seems like the Clayton gets me more for not a lot more $. I will only do moderate trail riding and it mainly will be my daily. I think both are more than capable of what I’d be doing but curious if anyone had experience with both and actual lift you got. I personally like the rake in the back for when towing or loaded down in back. Thanks for any input!!
For what it’s worth I’ll be running 37s with Method 705 0 offset.

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[aFatBird]

I'm a fan of clayton with no experience at all with aev.

Clayton rides firm(even too stiff for some people) but I don't mind the ride most of the time.
It's much firmer than stock to where you feel the bumps in the road much more.

With my 37" baja boss ats on method 703s with 0 offset I do rub the clayton lower arms at full lock.
I'll grab a picture of where it rubs in a bit.

 

[rEbell8762]

I'm a fan of clayton with no experience at all with aev.

Clayton rides firm(even too stiff for some people) but I don't mind the ride most of the time.
It's much firmer than stock to where you feel the bumps in the road much more.

With my 37" baja boss ats on method 703s with 0 offset I do rub the clayton lower arms at full lock.
I'll grab a picture of where it rubs in a bit.

Thanks for the response. That would be great. Are you running the 2.5 or 3.5 heavy duty springs? Which shocks?

 

[Dougstdig]

I'm a fan of clayton with no experience at all with aev.

Clayton rides firm(even too stiff for some people) but I don't mind the ride most of the time.
It's much firmer than stock to where you feel the bumps in the road much more.

With my 37" baja boss ats on method 703s with 0 offset I do rub the clayton lower arms at full lock.
I'll grab a picture of where it rubs in a bit.

What pressure are you running in the tires and what load rating are they?

 

[aFatBird]

Thanks for the response. That would be great. Are you running the 2.5 or 3.5 heavy duty springs? Which shocks?

I've got the 3.5 overland plus lift for the diesel and the 3.5 hd springs in the rear.
Shocks are the Falcon 3.3 shocks.

The wear is tiny but it is something to know about.

You also get about that much poke with a 12.5 wide tire

 

[aFatBird]

What pressure are you running in the tires and what load rating are they?

Load range D at about 31-32 psi

 

[Texops]

I did a kind of franken lift with AEV HD springs 3” you can buy them separately from the kit, i used Metal Cloak control arm correction brackets, rock Jock drive shaft drop, metal Cloak rear sway bar links, Mopar front lift sway bar links, MC front bump stops, Teraflex rear Trac bar bracket, Yeti front adjustable Trac bar, running Fox elite performance adjustable 2.5 shocks, and Clayton rear bump stops. I only have 35’s but it rides pretty good way better than i thought, handles weight well.

 

[rEbell8762]

I did a kind of franken lift with AEV HD springs 3” you can buy them separately from the kit, i used Metal Cloak control arm correction brackets, rock Jock drive shaft drop, metal Cloak rear sway bar links, Mopar front lift sway bar links, MC front bump stops, Teraflex rear Trac bar bracket, Yeti front adjustable Trac bar, running Fox elite performance adjustable 2.5 shocks, and Clayton rear bump stops. I only have 35’s but it rides pretty good way better than i thought, handles weight well.

Very nice. Love the stance!

 

[darkhorse13]

I've had both the Clayton SD 2.5" springs and now the AEV HD springs.

Unless you are running at a minimum 700lb constant load in the rear, I would NOT recommend the HD version of the AEV springs. These springs will give you close to a 2.5" rake front to rear as they are designed to carry a constant load. You'd be better with the non-HD AEV springs if you just want a lift.

The Clayton SD 2.5's are FIRM springs. Ride quality is subjective but there's enough posts on this forum to collaborate the ride feeling. I had the Clayton SD's paired with the Falcon SP2 3.3's and the shocks never left the softest setting. Please note that Clayton also under advertises their lift height meaning that you will get closer to 3" of lift with a 2.5" spring.

I then went to 3" Synergy springs after the Claytons and ride quality improved immensely with the Falcon SP2 3.3 shocks. Also, Synergy delivers a true ride height claim and they incorporate an OEM rake into their springs. I could actually use the dial settings on the shock to tune the ride from soft to firm... not just firm to more firm like the Claytons.

Finally, I'm now with the AEV HD springs because of the Scout Tuktut camper I am running. The HD springs handle the 850lb constant load with ease and the ride quality is nice. With the camper unloaded, the springs are still less firm than the Clayton's were but not as plush as the Synergy's.

I think an AEV SC, Synergy, Metal Cloak, Evo Plush spring would yield a softer ride for you.

 

[Krobarr]

Load range D at about 31-32 psi

you may want to contact Mickey Thompson as that seems low pressure for those tires! They’re bias ply which means a chalk test gives incorrect information! On my 2020 Gaser I was told 35 psi if I remember correctly, for best wear on pavement and the weight of the Gas JTR. I have a 2022 JTRD now and will upgrade to the MTBB’s once these Falkens are worn down!

 

[smlobx]

If you’ve read all the posts about AEV’s lifts you probably have seen mine…

The reason I went with the AEV lift with standard HD springs and the Bilstein 5100 modified shocks is because of several important reasons (for me anyways).

1. the kit is complete and I mean complete! Even things like the carrier bearing spacer to maintain the factory angles.
2. Everything has been engineered to work cohesively and it works so well that Jeep now offers it as an option on some variants I believe.

You mentioned that it is your daily driver. I would not recommend going for the heavier spring package and the standard overland springs are pretty firm, which I like, and that’s with probably about 200#’s in the back all the time.

Although the upgraded remote reservoir shocks look nice I think for 99% of the people using them it’s just for bling unless your really into desert running in which case there are better vehicles than a Gladiator to do that with.

JMHO!

 

[BlueScapegoat]

I put together my own lift but I'm using the AEV high capacity diesel specific coils with my ecodiesel Rubicon. With a winch in the front and rebel rack with RTT on the rear I added a 1" spacer to the front and it has a bit of a rake that perfectly levels out when I hook up a trailer or really load the bed up.

Performs great with my TJ behind it.

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Loaded for weekend camp trip

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[aFatBird]

you may want to contact Mickey Thompson as that seems low pressure for those tires! They’re bias ply which means a chalk test gives incorrect information! On my 2020 Gaser I was told 35 psi if I remember correctly, for best wear on pavement and the weight of the Gas JTR. I have a 2022 JTRD now and will upgrade to the MTBB’s once these Falkens are worn down!

They definitely are radial based on the tire code on the sidewall. The R in the tire code before the wheel size denotes the type of tire construction, which in this case is radial.

 

[darkhorse13]

you may want to contact Mickey Thompson as that seems low pressure for those tires! They’re bias ply which means a chalk test gives incorrect information! On my 2020 Gaser I was told 35 psi if I remember correctly, for best wear on pavement and the weight of the Gas JTR. I have a 2022 JTRD now and will upgrade to the MTBB’s once these Falkens are worn down!

I don't want to derail this thread but Mickey Thompson recommends lower pressures as well. There was a thread recently that someone contacted MT about pressure and was told 29psi. I personally run my 37's at 28psi and with a chalk test there's still a little bit on the side lugs. 35psi is too high IMO.

 

[Krobarr]

If you’ve read all the posts about AEV’s lifts you probably have seen mine…

The reason I went with the AEV lift with standard HD springs and the Bilstein 5100 modified shocks is because of several important reasons (for me anyways).

1. the kit is complete and I mean complete! Even things like the carrier bearing spacer to maintain the factory angles.
2. Everything has been engineered to work cohesively and it works so well that Jeep now offers it as an option on some variants I believe.

You mentioned that it is your daily driver. I would not recommend going for the heavier spring package and the standard overland springs are pretty firm, which I like, and that’s with probably about 200#’s in the back all the time.

Although the upgraded remote reservoir shocks look nice I think for 99% of the people using them it’s just for bling unless your really into desert running in which case there are better vehicles than a Gladiator to do that with.

JMHO!

Is yours a Gaser or Diesel?

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