Any reason to avoid Manual Transmission?

[hjdca]

53K miles on my JTR manual transmission. 37s and 5:13 gears. Still using the stock clutch. No problems so far. Very satisfied.

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[ShadowsPapa]

Yeah that’s what mine says too. No one warranty’s clutches.

Even years ago, we never gave any sort of a guarantee on clutches or related parts. Someone could take a new clutch out and fry it in an evening. In fact, it happened.
We did a full clutch job on a guy's car. A couple of days later he brought it back, clutch slipping badly. We got him talking - he had loaned his car to his son........ yeah, high school guy. He fried the thing in a single evening.
Ride the clutch pedal and you trash the release bearing. Get the clutch hot and you can wipe out a flywheel.

 

[Rocksalt]

any reason to avoid MT?
frequent stop and go traffic backed up for miles on WI interstate 94

 

[ShadowsPapa]

any reason to avoid MT?
frequent stop and go traffic backed up for miles on WI interstate 94

Or what is it, 75? Atlanta and south - traffic stop and go, crawl, stop crawling, or accident ahead (10 miles ahead) and you are heading up a steep grade.
I love my T5 in my car - but it's not for heavy traffic. My wife and I were both thankful to have an automatic, especially one where you can let it hold a hill, etc. and manual mode coming down mountains, you can slip up and down a gear seamlessly and hardly even touch brakes or any pedals.
For really big stuff, hydrostatic drive is the way to go LOL

 

[Rocksalt]

Or what is it, 75? Atlanta and south - traffic stop and go, crawl, stop crawling, or accident ahead (10 miles ahead) and you are heading up a steep grade.
I love my T5 in my car - but it's not for heavy traffic. My wife and I were both thankful to have an automatic, especially one where you can let it hold a hill, etc. and manual mode coming down mountains, you can slip up and down a gear seamlessly and hardly even touch brakes or any pedals.
For really big stuff, hydrostatic drive is the way to go LOL

stop and go for many miles om interstate .. been there.. done that with my 93 manusl Isuzu Trooper and 1998 manual Jeep TJ. Done with that.

 

[Rocksalt]

I am getting old lol

 

[Bbannongmu]

I’ll drive manual until I can’t anymore. Either because they stop making them and my old vehicle dies or I physically can’t drive. Bumper to bumper, up hill, highway, back roads, offroad, towing, doesn’t matter. #savethestick

 

[Mtpisgah]

I replaced the clutch in my wife’s JLR at 27k miles due to concerns about it exploding and the general crappy feel of it. We are so much happier with the Centerforce. I would have replaced it sooner had it been available.

If she needed a new jeep tomorrow, it would be a manual and would get a Centerforce in the first 1000 miles.

 

[OHJeeper]

I’ll drive manual until I can’t anymore. Either because they stop making them and my old vehicle dies or I physically can’t drive. Bumper to bumper, up hill, highway, back roads, offroad, towing, doesn’t matter. #savethestick

...and get off my lawn!

 

[MoparDave]

53K miles on my JTR manual transmission. 37s and 5:13 gears. Still using the stock clutch. No problems so far. Very satisfied.

Over 36,000 miles on my 2020 6 speed Rubicon with 37's/17 inch Centerforce rims (since new)
Heavy rock sliders (for 30K miles)
Steel OEM front bumper with Warn grill guard (since new)

I didn't change any gearing or suspension parts..."nada".
Everything else is stock except for a rubber antenna...lol.

**I have had ZERO issues with my clutch, and I did the recommended TSB's.**

I wouldn't be afraid of the manual blowing up for anyone who uses the Jeep like most people.

 

[redriderjf87]

any reason to avoid MT?
frequent stop and go traffic backed up for miles on WI interstate 94

Actually I'd avoid that in an automatic too.

A manual with a low 1st gear to lurch in actually keeps me more occupied in that situation.

 

[hjdca]

Actually I'd avoid that in an automatic too.

A manual with a low 1st gear to lurch in actually keeps me more occupied in that situation.

In traffic, in first gear, when you are about to stall, and the lurching starts, just tap the gas pedal very lightly and very quickly over and over again, this is not really enough to give it gas or raise the revs, but, this gives it a gas dribble, and you will be able to go even slower without lurching or stalling or using the clutch.

 

[bd100]

I had a chance to drive the manual through paved mountain roads. 55MPH zone with 25MPH turns. An absolute blast. This truck can be driven like a sports car when you want to. Held off a car which was behind me for a while, too. Unlike my 90s pickup with its manual NV3500, this new truck has a much shorter throw. The old one is frustrating to try to drive in a sporting manner, the new one can do it.

 

[onewhippedpuppy]

The Centerforce kit replaces the hydraulics, flywheel and clutch. They reworked the hydraulics, replaced the line with braided line with an heat shield and the release/slave cylinder rod is longer. Centerforce stated that factory specs were inconsistent. Seems like Jeep messed up some of these and that’s at least part of the problem.

I’ve seen lots of positive feedback on the Centerforce clutch but not much on the new hydraulics upgrade. What is this intended to fix?

 

[Bbannongmu]

I’ve seen lots of positive feedback on the Centerforce clutch but not much on the new hydraulics upgrade. What is this intended to fix?

The upgraded hydraulics comes with the kit now(I got an early production model before this was ready so they sent it to me afterwards). Centerforce only stated that the factory specs were inconsistent.

The new linkage at the release/slave cylinder is longer, the entire assembly just seems better made. The hydraulic line is also shielded /insulated. Presumably to address the fire/recall issues.

it feels better, a tad more firm but also springs back more crisply and evenly.
This with the CF clutch and flywheel is a night and day difference - recently drove a stock manual JL and forgot how vague it was after coming from mine. Almost stalled in reverse - forgot I had to give it gas (don’t need to with my CF Gladdy).

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