Automatic swaybar disconnects?

[Volt0]

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[TheSolarWizard]

my jeep is getting a secret project suspension put into it this summer using SDI integration for the bypass coilovers. I think im gonna have to find a way to integrate this into the front instead of doing the antilock.
the rear won't have a sway bar any longer

 

[Volt0]

The swaybar behaviors described in that video sound almost exactly like what a JT Mojave owner would want. Not that I’m a huge fan of mixing electronics with shocks, I do see the advantage of matching the suspension to the terrain. I think, for a Mojave owner wanting to keep their OEM suspension, these swaybar components would need to operate with or without those connected shocks. To be even more clear, I also don’t see the point in being disconnected above 20mph, b/c the ride can almost make a person feel car sick. I could almost see those swaybar links becoming like the reverse of shocks almost, where they have no give at highway speed, but become more and more forgiving for 20mph and below.

 

[WILDHOBO]

As someone that has Eclik shocks on my JT, mixing electronics with shocks is a game changer. It makes manual adjustable shocks so rudimentary in comparison. It genuinely improves the vehicle so dramatically, it’s difficult to believe without experiencing it. It has added true Mohave desert running capabilities to my rubicon. On the road, I can do u turns with my foot on the floor and take 60mph curves at 80 without body roll. For rock crawling, it’s more stable and capable than it ever was, as it automatically adjusts for off camber, climbs, descents, drop-offs, etc. I very much like Fred Williams, but he doesn’t exactly sell this as well as he could. I’ll be very interested to see these sway bar links in action. Thanks for posting this.

If anyone in CO wants to see how these shocks work in person, feel free to reach out.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

To be even more clear, I also don’t see the point in being disconnected above 20mph, b/c the ride can almost make a person feel car sick.

Someone running on the streets and highways without a sway bar likely doesn't understand that they aren't there to prevent full articulation, they are there to aid in braking and steering, especially in tighter circumstances, but also for normal driving.
It's really ironic how many make changes to sway bars without having any understanding of their function while on the road.
Off road, that's a different matter..........

 

[ShadowsPapa]

As someone that has Eclik shocks on my JT, mixing electronics with shocks is a game changer. It makes manual adjustable shocks so rudimentary in comparison. It genuinely improves the vehicle so dramatically, it’s difficult to believe without experiencing it. It has added true Mohave desert running capabilities to my rubicon. On the road, I can do u turns with my foot on the floor and take 60mph curves at 80 without body roll. For rock crawling, it’s more stable and capable than it ever was, as it automatically adjusts for off camber, climbs, descents, drop-offs, etc. I very much like Fred Williams, but he doesn’t exactly sell this as well as he could. I’ll be very interested to see these sway bar links in action. Thanks for posting this.

If anyone in CO wants to see how these shocks work in person, feel free to reach out.

GM has been messing with smart shocks, electronically controlled shocks, for years. About time they make it to the after-market. I bet it was 10 years ago I was reading about the progress GM was making, and how they behaved in trucks.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Someone running on the streets and highways without a sway bar likely doesn't understand that they aren't there to prevent full articulation, they are there to aid in braking and steering, especially in tighter circumstances, but also for normal driving.
It's really ironic how many make changes to sway bars without having any understanding of their function while on the road.
Off road, that's a different matter..........

I completely agree when we’re talking about things like the anti rock up front. And I’ll never disable my rear, even off road. But this company is top notch. I have zero concerns about these not being locked in when necessary, especially on the road.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I completely agree when we’re talking about things like the anti rock up front. And I’ll never disable my rear, even off road. But this company is top notch. I have zero concerns about these not being locked in when necessary, especially on the road.

I'm more concerned about people who would decide "I don't need no damned sway bar" and do like so often happens with other things - hack it to disable it on the road.
Weight transfer, oversteer, understeer, braking, tire force on the road.......... it's the end user that's the concern.

I know you know..........

 

[WILDHOBO]

I'm more concerned about people who would decide "I don't need no damned sway bar" and do like so often happens with other things - hack it to disable it on the road.
Weight transfer, oversteer, understeer, braking, tire force on the road.......... it's the end user that's the concern.

I know you know..........

I’m equally concerned about that, but not with this system. It’s an automotive ecu. No usb ports, no firmware updates. It’s setup to not be modifiable by people without knowledge to program automotive ECUs.

I’m more worried about people removing their rear sway bar for road going vehicles, mechanically. It happens every day. And there are plenty of people disconnecting fronts as well when on the road. It’s scary.

 

[Rahkmalla]

I also don’t see the point in being disconnected above 20mph

comfort.
sway bars connected while speeding down rutted out trails and you're bouncing side to side. disconnected smooths that out allowing each side to react to bumps (semi) independently.
Shout out to Apex autoLYNX.

 

[Rockabillyroy]

comfort.
sway bars connected while speeding down rutted out trails and you're bouncing side to side. disconnected smooths that out allowing each side to react to bumps (semi) independently.
Shout out to Apex autoLYNX.

Same. I put a rubi disco sway bar on my old jku and would roll down rutted trails at 35mph in comfort.

 

[Volt0]

Same. I put a rubi disco sway bar on my old jku and would roll down rutted trails at 35mph in comfort.

I’ve tried it, and fully disconnected at those speeds wasn’t good. At those speeds, iI could get behind more compliant, or partially relaxed, just not full on free-Willy.

i also don’t believe that you’re going to be in comfort, on a rutted road, at 35mph. At least not without running some ginormous 43” boggers with 3psi in them. I feel that this claim is a stretch of the imagination, at best. At 35mph, on a rutted road, I doubt that you can effectively monitor the speedo. Maybe your definition of a rutted road is different than mine, I just don’t see body roll being a major issue for comfort at that point - if your hitting rutted roads at 35, I’m thinking that you’ll be dealing with bucking, steering, shocks , issues with rims, bottoming out, maintaining control, etc.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

my jeep is getting a secret project suspension put into it this summer using SDI integration for the bypass coilovers. I think im gonna have to find a way to integrate this into the front instead of doing the antilock.
the rear won't have a sway bar any longer

Why no rear?

 

[bleda2002]

I’ve tried it, and fully disconnected at those speeds wasn’t good. At those speeds, iI could get behind more compliant, or partially relaxed, just not full on free-Willy.

i also don’t believe that you’re going to be in comfort, on a rutted road, at 35mph. At least not without running some ginormous 43” boggers with 3psi in them. I feel that this claim is a stretch of the imagination, at best. At 35mph, on a rutted road, I doubt that you can effectively monitor the speedo. Maybe your definition of a rutted road is different than mine, I just don’t see body roll being a major issue for comfort at that point - if your hitting rutted roads at 35, I’m thinking that you’ll be dealing with bucking, steering, shocks , issues with rims, bottoming out, maintaining control, etc.

Perhaps if is just definition or how rutty the road but I love 35-40 disconnected on a rutty road because I don't get so much head toss or bump steer with the axle being allowed to jounce more freely with out being shoved down by the sway bar. If this was an exceptionally curvy road it might be a different story in terms of control, but on mostly straight long rutted gravel/sand/dirt roads it's just so much less pounding and bottoming out it seems.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

Perhaps if is just definition or how rutty the road but I love 35-40 disconnected on a rutty road because I don't get so much head toss or bump steer with the axle being allowed to jounce more freely with out being shoved down by the sway bar. If this was an exceptionally curvy road it might be a different story in terms of control, but on mostly straight long rutted gravel/sand/dirt roads it's just so much less pounding and bottoming out it seems.

How would you bottom out less with the sway bar disconnected?

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