Broken Frame

[LouisvEarlleJT]

Pretty much everyone: You’re pushing too hard and borderline overweight.

OP: Nuh-Uh.

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[SoK66]

Did you miss a turn at Albuquerque and think you were on Pirate 4x4?

 

[Camaroboi13]

Nobody's mentioned it yet, so I'll be the first. Slightly off topic, but I HIGHLY suggest purchasing MetalCloak's sway bar end link reinforcement brackets. When wheeling the Gladiator, it's only a matter of time before the sway bar end links pull themselves out of the frame. I broke both sides in Moab in September.

They're on sale for $89 bucks right now too, which is dirt cheap for what you're getting and worth every penny.

https://metalcloak.com/jt-gladiator...MIg_OZytCNjAMVIz1ECB2UVg4TEAQYASABEgINPvD_BwE

 

[GeneralMaximus]

Out tours are *supposed to be scenic, non-technical. Low stress on guests & vehicles.

*fixed it for you

 

[SoK66]

*fixed it for you

Thank you!

 

[bd100]

The springs support the static load, with everything behind them hanging off the frame behind the upper spring mounts.

The shocks resist the dynamic load, but they tilt forward to the front, and more stuff is hanging in mid air behind the upper shock mounts. Longer lever, more weight behind the mount, more flex and wear.

When reinforcing these frames, be sure the welder knows about any special requirements for welding the high strength steel used in the frames.

And carry fewer people? Or use stronger trucks?

 

[Janster]

I’m referring to passengers. Six in back, two in back seat, plus guide/driver of course.

You had 6 passengers in the bed??

Sorry….. It’s not something I’m used to hearing about and/or doesn’t happen around here in PA. It’s illegal to have people or pets in the bed (hunting dogs in special crates is OK I believe).

The two offroad parks we have here…. Every passenger has to be in a seat belt.

 

[SoK66]

The springs support the static load, with everything behind them hanging off the frame behind the upper spring mounts.

The shocks resist the dynamic load, but they tilt forward to the front, and more stuff is hanging in mid air behind the upper shock mounts. Longer lever, more weight behind the mount, more flex and wear.

When reinforcing these frames, be sure the welder knows about any special requirements for welding the high strength steel used in the frames.

And carry fewer people? Or use stronger trucks?

Or train the guides not to hit ledges at full throttle?

 

[SoK66]

You had 6 passengers in the bed??

Sorry….. It’s not something I’m used to hearing about and/or doesn’t happen around here in PA. It’s illegal to have people or pets in the bed (hunting dogs in special crates is OK I believe).

The two offroad parks we have here…. Every passenger has to be in a seat belt.

Yes, the bed seating accommodates six belted passengers.

 

[Crane]

*fixed it for you

Live view of that tour guide's tour...

 

[willys 41]

fulcrum point physics.
This is a fulcrum point on the Gladiator and the fame bending at that point is more common than you think.
That's why there are after market repairs brackets.
This may or may not be designed into the frame as a crumple zone in a rear end accident.

 

[Janster]

Live view of that tour guide's tour...

We have a WINNA!!!

 

[SoK66]

Live view of that tour guide's tour...

I'll pass this on to his boss!

 

[SoK66]

fulcrum point physics.
This is a fulcrum point on the Gladiator and the fame bending at that point is more common than you think.
That's why there are after market repairs brackets.
This may or may not be designed into the frame as a crumple zone in a rear end accident.

Correct, and if you constantly bottom the suspension what we have is inevitable. The susopension is the Mopar 2" WITH Fox shocks. I have a feeling the shocks are toast, I'll know more tomorrow.

 

[NULL POINTER]

I'll pass this on to his boss!

I see what you did there.

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