The rail gives you freedom to move the panels around. Multiple things can be mounted to the rail simultaneously. If these racks used up the rail holes, you'd only get the racks, nothing else like a bike rack, kayak rack ect could be used as well.@BuiltRight , I was looking at adding these instead of a rail system in the bed of the truck. I noticed on your site it says I must have either the mopar rail system or your rail system. Call me silly, but, I’m unclear why one mounting system would require another just to mount the first. My question is whether the mounting holes on the top of the panel are the same spacing front to back as the trail rail mounting holes so that one could mount the panels using m6-1.0 bolts that thread into the pre-existing threaded holes where the mount tabs bend towards the wall of the truck. Hope that makes sense...
I wish I had found this thread last year when you started it to make that suggestion during mock-up. I Guess I was hoping you had already thought of that. In the beginning of this thread you had stated you were going to make it usable with or without the rail system and I’d hate to have to add a rail system just to have this.
They look to be a great product and would look better than what I would hash up so I’m hoping we can find a way to make it work without having to spends hundreds more for a systems to mount it to.
I understand that in a way. If I needed a kayak or bike rack so I had the rails anyway this would just be another add on or use for the rails. But I don’t need those things. Don’t really need these bed panels either but think they would be great to have and make an easy way to strap or bungee smaller things to the sides of the bed floor. (Tackle box or rods for a fishing trip, tool box for a side job, box of recovery gear when going on an off-roading trip... stuff I can’t or wouldn’t want to put in the back seat but don’t want sliding all over the bed) as it is I only have the four tie downs in the bed of the truck. I thought of mocking up some rails using unistrut I have left over from other projects and found that I have three pieces that would work for the sides and front but that puts those attachment points up high. I want something that will allow me to secure stuff to the floor without running a strap all the way across the bed.The rail gives you freedom to move the panels around. Multiple things can be mounted to the rail simultaneously. If these racks used up the rail holes, you'd only get the racks, nothing else like a bike rack, kayak rack ect could be used as well.
I'm guessing @BuiltRight also figured many would already have the rails. The ratio of people that have/want rails to those that want just a rack are high. So he designed for the masses. That's just my hunch, you'll have to get an answer from Matt himself.
BuiltRight's rail system is awesome, professional, done, no fabbing needed, but if you want to save some money I believe @Red Hot Sloth has a thread where he made his own, do a search for threads made by him.I understand that in a way. If I needed a kayak or bike rack so I had the rails anyway this would just be another add on or use for the rails. But I don’t need those things. Don’t really need these bed panels either but think they would be great to have and make an easy way to strap or bungee smaller things to the sides of the bed floor. (Tackle box or rods for a fishing trip, tool box for a side job, box of recovery gear when going on an off-roading trip... stuff I can’t or wouldn’t want to put in the back seat but don’t want sliding all over the bed) as it is I only have the four tie downs in the bed of the truck. I thought of mocking up some rails using unistrut I have left over from other projects and found that I have three pieces that would work for the sides and front but that puts those attachment points up high. I want something that will allow me to secure stuff to the floor without running a strap all the way across the bed.
I know he originally said he was going to make it work with or without the rails and one of the first mock up pics he showed was without a rail system. So.... having done CNC work before (albeit a 3D wood lathe system in a cabinet shop) if he wrote a program to cut the original mock up and still has the program... what’s the chances of him cutting one of those for the few of us that don’t have, need, or want the trail rails? Maybe I’ll just get the two rear ones and the front panel and fab up my own mount for it using the prethreaded holes that are in the bed or use the unistrut and figure out a way to mount them to that.
I think his post is the one I saw that made me dig the unistrut out of the pile and measure it.BuiltRight's rail system is awesome, professional, done, no fabbing needed, but if you want to save some money I believe @Red Hot Sloth has a thread where he made his own, do a search for threads made by him.
Before BuiltRight had their rails, I made my own out of wood. Least expensive way by far.
Built Right is an engineering dude. If there was a transition from bedside to rail side from the preliminary options, my guess is he knows what kind of stuff is going to get attached to his panels and found a weak point. I also don’t have the trail rail system and would like a couple of these panels, but I still wonder if there is reasoning for not doing it.I understand that in a way. If I needed a kayak or bike rack so I had the rails anyway this would just be another add on or use for the rails. But I don’t need those things. Don’t really need these bed panels either but think they would be great to have and make an easy way to strap or bungee smaller things to the sides of the bed floor. (Tackle box or rods for a fishing trip, tool box for a side job, box of recovery gear when going on an off-roading trip... stuff I can’t or wouldn’t want to put in the back seat but don’t want sliding all over the bed) as it is I only have the four tie downs in the bed of the truck. I thought of mocking up some rails using unistrut I have left over from other projects and found that I have three pieces that would work for the sides and front but that puts those attachment points up high. I want something that will allow me to secure stuff to the floor without running a strap all the way across the bed.
I know he originally said he was going to make it work with or without the rails and one of the first mock up pics he showed was without a rail system. So.... having done CNC work before (albeit a 3D wood lathe system in a cabinet shop) if he wrote a program to cut the original mock up and still has the program... what’s the chances of him cutting one of those for the few of us that don’t have, need, or want the trail rails? Maybe I’ll just get the two rear ones and the front panel and fab up my own mount for it using the prethreaded holes that are in the bed or use the unistrut and figure out a way to mount them to that.
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List of Interested JT Owners:
1. BuiltRight
2. Stoney15
3. 2020 SCRAMBLER
4. TheITGuy
5. G8R
6. Pion
2. steffen707
8. JeepDreams
9. Mjolnir
10. quetscoatl
11. ScaleRCCrawler
12. Cproch32
13. Gtlamans
14. Heathsrow
15. kenszel
16. ralphjjr
17. Rupicon
18. SleepyJeep
19. bgenlvtex
20. TJ Mitchell Films
21. techteacher
22. dangerousone
23. TampaJLU
24. kayakmike
25. EPTJ
26. DenverGladiator
27. sad85XD
28. Archie Bunker
29. pokerbob
30. Daddiator
31. STINGRAY92
32. Gren71
33. BlackDog
34. jeepncrowd
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36. Magnus Rudis
37. sbetts
38. MotoBrad
39. Gdavis
40. Bremen
41. BRD1941
42. jsyn
43. BK_Yeti
44. J33P3R
45. Sladecm
46. fitchottie
47. BeeeCeee
48. gmc1000_1965
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Not sure why but I can't find any links directly for the gladiator on their site now but I did dig and found the link for you:Without going through 21 pages... I assume I missed out on the initial offering? If so, is there a forum discount code?