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Kill switch and insurance. Done.
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Kill switch and insurance. Done.
I'm with this... why go through all the trouble of fake can-bus when people are just cloning remotes now and don't even need all the fancy OBD/CANBUS hacking?

How about just pull the starter relay from the TIPM? ...or disconnect the positive lead to the starter? Add a hood lock and no amount of cloning or canbus shenanigans will start the JT.

These thieves are looking for easy opportunity, just make it hard enough for them to move on.
 

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I'm a fan of this method.........fuck around and find out
I bought this decal a while back. I need to put it on. Obviously it will look better once the paper is removed.
 

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Kill switch and insurance. Done.
My son put a kill switch on the TJ. The wife can't figure it out and she was trained how to use it.

I don't lose much sleep over things like this. I do hope I catch them in the act though. I only sleep 5 hours a day. Routines are a thieves best friend. I love cell based trail cameras. It only takes 15 seconds or so to get a notification. You just have to hear it if you are a sound sleeper. Set it up in the backseat and when the door opens, you get a picture sent to you. All the other devices mentioned here will hopefully slow them down enough for you to pick out your tool of choice and put a pair of shoes on. Some thing mentioned here may give you time to make a cup of coffee for the event.

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Is anyone making a plate that inhibits access to the can bus star connectors behind the glove box? Like a steel plate with security screws? Wanted to check if i could buy one before i made one. This would prevent someone from using a DMAX (https://www.aetools.us) and programmer plugged into the can bus to flash new key fobs.

could almost just be angle iron with two holes and replace those two bolts with safety screws.


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The DMAX isn’t capable of extracting the PIN required to program a fob on these newer RF Hubs, but I do have a cheaper fob programmer that can.
Either way, aside from trying to restrict access to the star can blocks, you would also have to restrict access to the easier method to plug into the bus- the gateway connectors. That’s where you would normally plug the fob programmer into anyway, via one of these:
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The DMAX isn’t capable of extracting the PIN required to program a fob on these newer RF Hubs, but I do have a cheaper fob programmer that can.
Either way, aside from trying to restrict access to the star can blocks, you would also have to restrict access to the easier method to plug into the bus- the gateway connectors. That’s where you would normally plug the fob programmer into anyway, via one of these:
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My plan was to use a tazer in the gateway protected in a metal enclosure
 

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My plan was to use a tazer in the gateway protected in a metal enclosure
I think brawler fab makes a box for the tazer.
Keep in mind that once a tazer is plugged in, the OBD port is now unsecured with direct access to both busses, so that would need to be protected or relocated.
 

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Kill switch. Make it so you don't care if the thief has your fob. Too complex dicking with the vehicle buses.
 

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Kill switch. Make it so you don't care if the thief has your fob. Too complex dicking with the vehicle buses.
This is the easiest and cheapest solution. I use a similar concept, but there’s no aftermarket switch, no cut/tapped wires, remote start still works, and they can program a pile of fobs or relay fob signals all they want.
 
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I think brawler fab makes a box for the tazer.
Keep in mind that once a tazer is plugged in, the OBD port is now unsecured with direct access to both busses, so that would need to be protected or relocated.
Thanks, didn't realize that part
 

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Could just get one of these, and infuse both seat and back with 00 fish hook barbs...

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it sure is a shame that we have to even worry this much about our personal property.... :-(

I know the last 5 years or so that I lived in Washington state I wouldn't even go hiking anymore because it was well known cars were broken into. and of course police and prosecutors did nothing. they actually went so far as to tell people to just 'buy a junker car'. pretty sad how commonplace it is these days.
Here in NH, it's also pretty common for cars to be broken into at trailheads. But most of the time it's just junkies looking for something they can sell. Cars generally don't get stolen.
 

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Reviving this thread. Anyone know of security box built to go around the CANbus in the glove compartment? Adding layers, and this is one I would like to add.
 

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Doesn't the entire concept of CANbus render it vulnerable at any point in the network since every node is on the same bus?

I would think a hidden relay to place short across the network when all systems are off would lock everything down.
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