Diesel shocks ??

[CrazyCooter]

I went with AEV dualsport diesel specific springs paired with Falcon’s 3.1 shocks (for the gasser). Rides incredibly well. After 40k miles the springs and shocks still feel and look like new. Had to relo my aux battery but they do offer the smaller resi for diesels.

Just a word of caution if you opt to go Falcon, their customer service is pretty terrible. The quality and ride are great but unlike other $3k+ range providers, they won’t be there to help if they screw up. That has been my experience anyway. I’ll never buy from them again but they make a fine shock.

Falcons may be a quality product, but the valving for overlanding looks nothing short of horrible?

Many videos like this one and what I've seen within my own group are the reason I could NEVER buy Falcon shocks........start at 2:30

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[staying_tuned]

Falcons may be a quality product, but the valving for overlanding looks nothing short of horrible?

Many videos like this one and what I've seen within my own group are the reason I could NEVER buy Falcon shocks........start at 2:30

Weird. I WFH and the 40k on it are from trips to WY, TX, FL & UT. RTT, fridge/full rack and family of 4. Threw everything at it short of hardcore rock crawling and man they are smooth and consistent. I set them all at their softest, I had heard they were way too jarring in the stiffer range. Maybe the AEV springs are the stars? It’s my 4th Jeep and have had mid-grade or better suspension setups on them all and this combo feels the best.

 

[CrazyCooter]

Weird. I WFH and the 40k on it are from trips to WY, TX, FL & UT. RTT, fridge/full rack and family of 4. Threw everything at it short of hardcore rock crawling and man they are smooth and consistent. I set them all at their softest, I had heard they were way too jarring in the stiffer range. Maybe the AEV springs are the stars? It’s my 4th Jeep and have had mid-grade or better suspension setups on them all and this combo feels the best.

So you "Heard" they were too stiff in the high range, but never tested yourself? I'm not poking at you, but that's a LOT of money to spend for an adjustment range that you don't use?

It make these discussions impossible to judge by the feedback given. We got guys buying "Race Series" Fox 3.0's that don't really off road and complaining about the ride on the pavement? More money doesn't necessarily buy you a better ride, just the ability to drive faster?

Most of the posers on the forums could get by with a properly tuned 2.0 monotube, never have an issue, and save money for fuel and beer.

 

[Teqsand]

I went with Rustys 4” and his upgraded shocks (800) and it rides soooo much better than stock. Am very happy with the lift.

Diesel correct?
On road vs offroad time? How is it off the pavement?

 

[staying_tuned]

So you "Heard" they were too stiff in the high range, but never tested yourself? I'm not poking at you, but that's a LOT of money to spend for an adjustment range that you don't use?

Saving money is why I didn’t opt for the quick adjusts : ) It’s a near half day ordeal if I want to spin the shafts a click. They felt so good at the recco level that I’ve kept it. They weren’t a lot of money relative to build quality and performance in my experience. I’d wager you’d maybe reconsider such a stance if you held one in you hands, solid stuff and as I said, rides great on our laden EcoD.

 

[CrazyCooter]

Saving money is why I didn’t opt for the quick adjusts : ) It’s a near half day ordeal if I want to spin the shafts a click. They felt so good at the recco level that I’ve kept it. They weren’t a lot of money relative to build quality and performance in my experience. I’d wager you’d maybe reconsider such a stance if you held one in you hands, solid stuff and as I said, rides great on our laden EcoD.

So you have the 3.1's vs the 3.3's are the quick the quick adjust? So many options they have that I can't keep them strait. The guys in my group have the 3.3's

Not sure what the Epic JT has without looking at a build video, but I'm sure it's 3.3's or better?

 

[Teqsand]

Mine is a DD and we do honor trails and starting some long overlanding trips... I live in the mojave desert

 

[The dude]

Diesel correct?
On road vs offroad time? How is it off the pavement?

Yes diesel. I mostly drive highway and construction sites. Handles both no issue. Don’t have any hardcore off road experience with this lift yet

 

[freebird_78]

You couldn't GIVE me Rusty's stuff...

Products not that great, terrible customer service.

 

[Teqsand]

You couldn't GIVE me Rusty's stuff...

Products not that great, terrible customer service.

Which parts have you used?

 

[staying_tuned]

So you have the 3.1's vs the 3.3's are the quick the quick adjust? So many options they have that I can't keep them strait. The guys in my group have the 3.3's

Not sure what the Epic JT has without looking at a build video, but I'm sure it's 3.3's or better?

Yeah, the adjustments would be neat but it didn’t make sense price/use-case wise for us. I spent the least amount possible basically to get into their external resi hardware. I bet he’s got the fancier ones, heck maybe when you get up to that price point King or Icon makes more sense.

 

[Rick_Jame55]

I am running these with the Mopar 2” with a 1” spacer on the front. I’ve never hit the bump stops and the pistons don’t show signs of hitting bottom “ front or back”. Yes they are pricey $$$$. But I don’t have issues with hitting bottom. And they are truly adjustable.

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[Rick_Jame55]

I am running these with the Mopar 2” with a 1” spacer on the front. I’ve never hit the bump stops and the pistons don’t show signs of hitting bottom “ front or back”. Yes they are pricey $$$$. But I don’t have issues with hitting bottom. And they are truly adjustable.

FACTORY RACE SERIES 3.0 INTERNAL BYPASS RESERVOIR SHOCK (PAIR) - ADJUSTABLE - 883-26-080

Sorry here’s the link
https://www.ridefox.com/product.php...p&model=Gladiator+JT&year=2021&position=Front

 

[CDNGladiator]

Clayton and Fox 3.3 Diesel Specific and I'm happy

 

[rubicon4wheeler]

I have the Rock Krawler 3-inch diesel front springs and ICON 2.5" CDCV adjustable reservoir shocks along with MetalCloak DuroSpring bumpstops. This is what it finally took for me to eliminate the harsh front-end bottoming out even on the street. Now the suspension soaks up terrain like it's supposed to, and the faster I go the better they work because of their internal "bump zone" in the last 20% of their compression travel.

The ICONs don't have as broad an adjustment range from full soft to full stiff as Rancho RS9000s do, but they definitely allow you to fine-tune their damping to your preference. Even at their softest setting they don't allow the vehicle to wallow, but I've been running them at setting 4 (valved like their non-adjustable shocks at the "sweet spot" per ICON's engineers) for regular street driving unless I need to stiffen them for towing or whatever.

I haven't had a chance to play around with them on high-speed desert trails, but on this weekend's snow run I was bombing down a forest road and hit a fairly large rock that was hidden under the snow with just the passenger side tires. The rock was big enough to fully bottom the suspension and make my passenger squeal, but everything worked as intended: no harsh bottoming out, just a nice progressive absorption of all that energy which kept the Jeep under control and prevented any damage. This was at my usual setting 4, but had I adjusted them to 7-9 they would have handled that hit even better.

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