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EPA went after the big fish. Now they are going after the little fish.
 

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Sometimes even the manufacturer themselves have to cheat to meet emissions regulations. VM Motori, VW, and Cummins will not be the only ones caught and the over tightening of emissions will eventually lead to the diesel’s death.
Everyone seems to forget that Stellantis was caught doing the same thing as VW just a few weeks after that story broke and was fined $300 Million.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/co...ilty-fined-300-million-emissions-fr-rcna30487
 

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Everyone seems to forget that Stellantis was caught doing the same thing as VW just a few weeks after that story broke and was fined $300 Million.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/co...ilty-fined-300-million-emissions-fr-rcna30487
That’s what I meant with VM Motori and they were also aware of the 6.7 Cummins cheating. I was not attacking these companies. I’ll bet you $$ the duramax and power stroke will do it if they aren’t already unless somebody makes a breakthrough with diesels. I think the EPA wants diesels gone.
 

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Or if your gonna dump 6 figures an a 1 ton pickup. Just buy a 90s or older 1 ton and build out however you like. If the vin says it didn't come with def, you could totally put a new 6.7 with a 10 speed in there fully deleted. no laws broken. does depend on states tho a bit. Got a 4in straight piped 7.3 in a 94' bronco. no emission laws broken, 100% legal.
 

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What sucks is the lack of ability of service providers ( dealers ) to reasonably troubleshoot and repair these emissions systems and the overall reliability of them. This seems to be across all manufacturers so it isn’t an FCA only problem.
 

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Yeah, I knew what I was getting myself into when I bought an emissions compliant vehicle. I'll keep my modern diesels emissions compliant for as long as the law requires me too. I don't like it, but the law is the law.
 

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Or if your gonna dump 6 figures an a 1 ton pickup. Just buy a 90s or older 1 ton and build out however you like. If the vin says it didn't come with def, you could totally put a new 6.7 with a 10 speed in there fully deleted. no laws broken. does depend on states tho a bit. Got a 4in straight piped 7.3 in a 94' bronco. no emission laws broken, 100% legal.
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What sucks is the lack of ability of service providers ( dealers ) to reasonably troubleshoot and repair these emissions systems and the overall reliability of them. This seems to be across all manufacturers so it isn’t an FCA only problem.
For the most part, the emissions system isn't too complicated, however, it has the potential to nickel and dime you simply due to all the components. The DPF and SCR might last 300,000 miles, but the sensors, DEF pump, DEF injector, ECR, and ECR cooler might need to be changed out a few times in that period.
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