Does it make sense buying a Mojave?

[WILDHOBO]

Because there's no such thing? That's a contradiction in terms - "inexpensive" and "quick disconnecting links" in the same sentence is like "drag strip" and "Jeep 3.6 for the win" in the same sentence.

I completely disagree. I just searched and the really nice ones average around only $175. And I saw several options under $100.

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[ShadowsPapa]

I completely disagree. I just searched and the really nice ones average around only $175. And I saw several options under $100.

BUT - what about quality? Ease of use? Lifespan?
Accessories for Jeeps tend to be priced like accessories for Jeeps.......... and then there's the lower cost ones made in China that rot after a year.
No cutting? No chopping off parts?

 

[WILDHOBO]

BUT - what about quality? Ease of use? Lifespan?
Accessories for Jeeps tend to be priced like accessories for Jeeps.......... and then there's the lower cost ones made in China that rot after a year.
No cutting? No chopping off parts?

The jks quicker disconnects are $175. Super easy to use, greasable, adjustable, and rebuildable. I’ve had them for 40k miles and they work great.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The jks quicker disconnects are $175. Super easy to use, greasable, adjustable, and rebuildable. I’ve had them for 40k miles and they work great.

That does sound reasonable.
I like the "rebuildable" bit.

Some accessories turn me off because I've always been the sort where "I won't cut or chop to make my mods" as some day - I may not own the same truck and need to take it back to stock. I would never install the sort where some bracket needs to be cut off or whatever.

 

[WILDHOBO]

That does sound reasonable.
I like the "rebuildable" bit.

Some accessories turn me off because I've always been the sort where "I won't cut or chop to make my mods" as some day - I may not own the same truck and need to take it back to stock. I would never install the sort where some bracket needs to be cut off or whatever.

There’s one tiny tab that needs to be removed, but as for me, I wouldn’t even remove them if I traded it. I’d remove expensive things, but $175 sway bar links can just stay with the truck. I don’t know why anyone would care about a tab that’s not important. If you didn’t know it was ever there, you wouldn’t know anything had been changed.

 

[WILDHOBO]

That does sound reasonable.
I like the "rebuildable" bit.

Some accessories turn me off because I've always been the sort where "I won't cut or chop to make my mods" as some day - I may not own the same truck and need to take it back to stock. I would never install the sort where some bracket needs to be cut off or whatever.

Metalcloak, who most agree makes super high quality stuff, makes them for $99

https://metalcloak.com/jl-front-sway-bar-quick-disconnect.html

 

[ShadowsPapa]

There’s one tiny tab that needs to be removed, but as for me, I wouldn’t even remove them if I traded it. I’d remove expensive things, but $175 sway bar links can just stay with the truck. I don’t know why anyone would care about a tab that’s not important. If you didn’t know it was ever there, you wouldn’t know anything had been changed.

Sounds a bit like my playing "what-if" in recent weeks - would it make sense to take those bits out since I can no longer buy Overland and my only choice being Mojave, would be a different animal?
For example, the 3/4" spacers under the rear springs - what would I do with them with a Mojave?
The front springs - the Synergy 2" springs (that only give about 1.25-1.5" on my Overland) would they be of any use on a Mojave? It's an expensive pair of springs - so maybe I could sell them, is one thought. Dunno.
Dealers won't give a penny more for any mods, but some things can be sold easily to recoup some money/costs.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Sounds a bit like my playing "what-if" in recent weeks - would it make sense to take those bits out since I can no longer buy Overland and my only choice being Mojave, would be a different animal?
For example, the 3/4" spacers under the rear springs - what would I do with them with a Mojave?
The front springs - the Synergy 2" springs (that only give about 1.25-1.5" on my Overland) would they be of any use on a Mojave? It's an expensive pair of springs - so maybe I could sell them, is one thought. Dunno.
Dealers won't give a penny more for any mods, but some things can be sold easily to recoup some money/costs.

Yep. Expensive things like lights and maybe bumpers, sure. Springs, spacers, and links? Nah. It would be 2 days of work to remove them and take them back to stock, for what, to sell it all for $150?

 

[KevinC]

The JKS and Metalcloak disconnects are both high quality for an affordable price.

Anyone with a Mojave and one of the above mentioned disconnects I feel has an advantage over the Rubicon in that they stay disconnected. When I owned a Rubicon it would bother me every time I went above the speed limit of them re-connecting. Also the fact every time you turn off the engine, they re-connect. Granted, so did Offroad+, and ESC, so you had to spend a few minutes resetting everything back to continue on the trail.

 

[WILDHOBO]

The JKS and Metalcloak disconnects are both high quality for an affordable price.

Anyone with a Mojave and one of the above mentioned disconnects I feel has an advantage over the Rubicon in that they stay disconnected. When I owned a Rubicon it would bother me every time I went above the speed limit of them re-connecting. Also the fact every time you turn off the engine, they re-connect. Granted, so did Offroad+, and ESC, so you had to spend a few minutes resetting everything back to continue on the trail.

I have a rubicon, and still have quick disconnects. I love them for front end maintenance. I didn’t buy them for that. They came with a lift kit in 2021.

 

[Mojave2021]

I've never had to worry abut "E-rated tires". Why? Because all other ratings more than handle the weight. In fact, you can't possibly over-load the stock tires any level JT comes with without totally blowing away all numbers and abusing the truck. It's not capable of the amount of weight in the back that would cause trouble for the stock tires.
E is just too damned stiff for street/road use and very unnecessary.
I didn't even go with D. I tow 5,000 pounds, 500 pound tongue weight and loaded down with cooler, camping gear ad so on - and my truck itself is heavy with the accessories. I run the proper inflation for the given load.
The only truck I've had that may have required E rated tires is the F250 I had - and I could haul over a ton in the back of it and not force it to break a sweat.

I have yet to see anyone with a JT that did NOT do heavy off-roading that needed such heavy tires.
I certainly don't, and never will.

I run my tires up to 38-40 pounds when the rear is very heavily loaded - there's a reason you have your "normal running PSI" and then the "full load PSI" - do some math and if the max psi is something like 48 - you can go up into the 40s when the truck is heavily loaded and be fine.
The fools, and sometimes I think I should use a worse term, who load up a truck and never adjust inflation - yeah, if you are dumb enough to do it that way, you'd better run heavy tires to cover for your lack of knowing what you are doing while towing or loaded.

My truck would have to weigh over 11,000 pounds to exceed the tire weight rating. Allowing for at least some safety margin, say allowing about 20%, it would still have to exceed 8,800 pounds to exceed the tire ratings. Assuming the truck itself was 6,000 pounds, I'd have to load it up with over 2,800 pounds to even get to 80% of the tire load ratings. Ain't gonna happen.
The stock Overland tires have over 2,500 pound load rating. Take that times 4 and you have over 10,000 pounds. You'll kill the poor truck.

Granted, you want tough sidewalls in rocky areas with sharp rocks and debris and tree trunks and parts- you'll rip standard sidewalls to shreds. Tough sidewalls are necessary for adventures where things tend to poke into tires from any angle - or for those who need to really air down, then you rely on tough sidewalls- but for those who don't get into those spots, E is over-kill, IMO.
Not needed for towing or hauling loads.
Needed for rough off-roading or where airing down and riding just on the sidewall flex is needed.

I was worried about the E rated tires being too harsh but I haven’t noticed that whatsoever. However I went from 33” Falken MTs (C) to 35” Ridge Grapplers (E). Running the same exact PSI too. The ride is actually quite a bit less harsh but maybe that’s due to the MT’s ride quality plus the extra 2”.

The weight (especially when braking) and gas mileage hit is more noticeable though, as they definitely are heavy.

 

[Jobofly]

I love my Mojave. It checked all of the boxes for me. However now my requirements and interest are changing and am starting to think about a Rubicon. My point is make sure you know what your long term plans are. I wish I knew before I got mine.

 

[Volt0]

Why not just install inexpensive quick disconnecting links?

I would bet that my impact socket will disconnect those swaybar links just about as fast as any other options where I have to pull pins and reattach my swaylinks elsewhere. I don't see a great benefit of spending $100+ to save me, maybe a minute or two, for each time that I connect/disconnect. I don't do that often enough, and If I spend any $$ on the disconnects, it'll be on something that keeps my Mojave swaybar AND allows me to stay clean by operating the connect/disconnect action from the driver's seat. Additionally, I don't have to worry about some teen in a parking lot that might think that it's funny to start playing with shiny things, and collecting pins like hood ornaments. I haven't heard of it happening to anyone, but it would be super easy for someone ( with il intent ) to just reach over the tire of someone else, and turn their Apex Autolynx.

With the exception of mechanical failure, it's just something that I don't have to worry about, and I don't have to think about.

 

[antwon412]

My D rated tires work great. And I can drive at speed offroad just like a Mohave can. It’s all about the shocks. If the op is lifting 3.5”, spacers won’t do them any favors, and the Mohave shocks will be pulled off anyway.

Mojave. J not h.

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