Fender lights constantly on

[JTJeff84]

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I have a jscan I'll look into that. Thanks.

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[Snake Eyes]

I am going to throw this out there as a former LEO and also past insurance adjuster. IF you mess with them and turn them off using some not normal method and you get in an accident where someone crosses your path the FIRST thing, very FIRST thing that is going to happen is the other insurance company and possibly your are going to say you have partial fault in the accident by turning them off when all settings in the vehicle are meant to keep them on. Then the other driver will sue to shift liability to you about altering your vehicle to make it not visible…….you wanna go there? Your decision….

Forget about them. I think they look fine on a Jeep.

Hell I live in Las Vegas where accidents are considered a hobby or sport. I actually turn on my LED headlights in hopes that no one will pull in front of me and that is on a clear sunny day. If I could I would turn on everything including my cowl LED lights (unfortunately no legal on regular roads)….I would prefer to look like a massive blaze coming down the road than to have an idiot not see me as well.

 

[ChrisNLA]

No help on this matter, and I don't normally prefer government enforced nannies and programs...

But few things have made me happier than DRL's and Auto On headlights becoming the norm. I love that they exist on my JT, and even happier that the headlights automatically come on when I turn on the windshield wipers.

I am so sick of people that do not turn their lights on at dusk, in the rain, or in poor lighting conditions and as a result their jalopies are hard to see when passing, pulling out somewhere or in general driving down the road.

So, good luck figuring it out - I guess? lol.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

If I remember correctly (maybe I don't), the setting in the head unit turns off the fender DRLs but not the halos in the headlights.

That is how my 2021 behaves.

Halos in headlights are always on, fender DRLs can be turned off in the settings.

My fender DRLs turned themselves off somehow a few months ago. Went into settings, they were turned off.

 

[drewcnit]

I have a jscan I'll look into that. Thanks.

http://jscan.net/drl-day-time-running-lights-configuration-settings/

 

[PW45]

I am so sick of people that do not turn their lights on at dusk, in the rain, or in poor lighting conditions and as a result their jalopies are hard to see when passing, pulling out somewhere or in general driving down the road.

It's the opposite that is more of a problem around here at least, so many people driving with their HIGH BEAMS on and completely farking clueless. And like a zombie moth I can't help just stare right at it...

 

[Kevin_D]

That is how my 2021 behaves.

Halos in headlights are always on, fender DRLs can be turned off in the settings.

My fender DRLs turned themselves off somehow a few months ago. Went into settings, they were turned off.

So did mine…
I thought they’d both burned out.

Kevin

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If they are not supposed to be able to be turned off, the option to turn them off should be removed from settings.

If the option is there, it should work.

Anyone here remember the MOPAR trailer brake controller? How they sold a trailer brake controller that took way over a year to finally actually release - the instructions stated you must add a wiring harness if your truck didn't have the factory trailer tow package, how they showed the controller oriented one direction but it came the other direction - wait for it - the fun part - how if you pressed the button to manually apply trailer brakes it set the check engine light, disabled stability control, traction control and other features of the truck until you shut down and restarted?
Yeah - they worked with Tekonsha to had a trailer brake controller built that wouldn't function on certain build dates because it tossed a brake light signal onto the brake light circuit and the ABS freaked out seeing a signal it wasn't expecting.
And then the fix? Flash the ABS to tell it to ignore any signal it saw on the brake light circuit.

And you think they'll remember to remove a CSM item if a change is made to DRL?

Anyway, like I was saying earlier - they are mandatory in some countries, it's very possible they are trying to universalize things.

Canada - mandatory since 1990
The lights have been mandatory all new cars sold in Canada since 1990. Studies there showed crashes were reduced by 28 percent after the conversion.

U.K. - mandatory since 2011 (Seems to me it hit the EU in general about this time)
According to EU regulations, daytime running lights must be separate from fog lights or headlights.

One study showed that on a good day, clear day, an approaching car can be seen about 2500 feet away. That jumps to over 4,500 feet with front lights. Damn, not quite double. And that's on a good day. Think about dawn or dusk.


Some states state that if there's a light, it must function to pass inspection. So if a state has any inspection laws, if the patrol can pull a vehicle over for inspection or if there's an accident and the visibility is "iffy" and the other party complains, it's a way to find trouble.
Likely a person could remove half the lights on a vehicle and never have any problems with inspections or being pulled over or anyone causing any trouble. Likely.

Interesting note - the USA has resisted safety regulations for decades - European countries as well as others required position marker lights on vehicles years before the U.S even with proof of how much they helped. Finally in the late 1960s, the USA reluctantly saw the light.
The USA listens to lobbies and people complaining about being annoyed or inconvenienced more than they do how something can saves lives or even save states money because they have to clean up after fewer accidents. Every time anyone has a wreck it costs all of us money, not just those directly involved.

I'm designing an acrylic piece that will take the place of the front fender flare lights - it will be called a light delete kit. You'll be able to fully remove all lighting from the front fender flares.
The tail gate light is annoying and some have had issues with it not working, I think a cool textured colored panel to replace that would be great, too. That stupid cable between the box and the tailgate for that dumb light is subject to rodent chewing anyway, time to get rid of it.
That "third brake light" is one of the dumbest things anyone has ever come up with and it's just something to wash around or get caught on stuff when using your truck as a truck. I don't want to have to buy another if it gets busted, just delete it.

 

[ChrisNLA]

I'm designing an acrylic piece that will take the place of the front fender flare lights - it will be called a light delete kit. You'll be able to fully remove all lighting from the front fender flares.
The tail gate light is annoying and some have had issues with it not working, I think a cool textured colored panel to replace that would be great, too. That stupid cable between the box and the tailgate for that dumb light is subject to rodent chewing anyway, time to get rid of it.
That "third brake light" is one of the dumbest things anyone has ever come up with and it's just something to wash around or get caught on stuff when using your truck as a truck. I don't want to have to buy another if it gets busted, just delete it.

I know the sarcasm is actually deep here - but on a serious note I gotta say the third brake light is another mandatory item I really like. Countless times I've come across a vehicle that for one reason or another, BOTH regular brake lights didn't work anymore and the only reason I caught someone slowing down suddenly in front of me was the third brake light happened to still work.

Handy little bugger...

 

[BearFootSam]

REAL experts have proven in scientific studies - they work. If they didn't, there'd be no money spent on the development, no effort put into them. It matters.
And around here the number of f'n idiots that don't use headlights at dusk, or when it's really cloudy is just crazy.
It's to protect people from themselves and each other - no matter how much a person hates such things.

Never mind that most states now require headlights when you use wipers. Now ideally you actually turn your lights on to burn the rears but you are in a sense covered by the DRLs.

In the motorcycle world I learned when I was 18 to turn on my headlights during the day because they do make a difference. Having those marker lamps on the corners is perhaps even better due to the human distance judgement heuristic. Our brains judge distance and speed by observing the horizontal size shift of an object. Because those lamps are placed at the corners of the vehicle, they help oncoming traffic judge your speed and range which is a good thing. This is one subject of debate in the MC world where it has been supposed that using dual fog lamps at night may create a false impression of distance if an oncoming driver associates them with a distant car rather than a near motorcycle.

The blackout switch belongs in military vehicles, not on public roads.

 

[BearFootSam]

I know the sarcasm is actually deep here - but on a serious note I gotta say the third brake light is another mandatory item I really like. Countless times I've come across a vehicle that for one reason or another, BOTH regular brake lights didn't work anymore and the only reason I caught someone slowing down suddenly in front of me was the third brake light happened to still work.

Handy little bugger...

Credit to jeep, they actually designed the third brake light to mount on the tailgate instead of the back of the cap in part so that a bed topper wouldn't obscure it and require a more costly solution to relocate (and it help make the soft-top simpler).

Thoughtful touches like this have made me appreciate my truck more and more. Almost like Jeep actually considered how people would use the things.

 

[Gatorized]

I'll post a picture of both DRL and without the DRL on later on when it gets darker. It's not the yellow marker lights.

Where are the pictures with the switch in different positions and the parking brake engaged?

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

I'm willing to bet that's what the option is for. But if you don't get the LED package, which I don't think OP has, then you don't have the halos and the setting being discussed does nothing.

Think about it. If you have halos and fender lights, then it makes sense to be able to turn off the fender lights as the halos can act as the DRL. But without the halos, which only come with the LED headlights, then you need to have the fenders on as they're the only option for DRLs.

This isn't a problem. This is how it's designed. No duh the setting on the radio doesn't do anything, it's not a LED equipped truck!

I don’t have a problem with how it works. I like the LED halos and I like DRLs.

Having a setting option that does nothing is a problem. OPs does nothing. Disable the option at the very least if it does nothing. All my settings options do something as far as I know.

 

[Kevin_D]

I'm willing to bet that's what the option is for. But if you don't get the LED package, which I don't think OP has, then you don't have the halos and the setting being discussed does nothing.

Think about it. If you have halos and fender lights, then it makes sense to be able to turn off the fender lights as the halos can act as the DRL. But without the halos, which only come with the LED headlights, then you need to have the fenders on as they're the only option for DRLs.

This isn't a problem. This is how it's designed. No duh the setting on the radio doesn't do anything, it's not a LED equipped truck!

My JT doesn't have the factory LED package, and turning off the DRLs via the radio does indeed turn off the DRLs!

Kevin

 

[Mr._Bill]

I'm still waiting for pictures to show exactly which lights he is trying to turn off.

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