Gladiator crabs on 4WD Hi

[ShadowsPapa]

Yes
RCV Axle shafts
https://www.quadratec.com/p/readylift-suspension/ultimate-front-1-piece-cv-axles-jeep-wrangler-jl
Or the 35 spline version
https://www.quadratec.com/p/rcv-per...pline-front-1-piece-cv-axles-jeep-wrangler-jl

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[Elff]

Drew Hayes

But my nickname actually came from Keebler Elves.

Long Story short,

I transferred H.S. due to my parents relocating and someone was asking about where I came from
The second person said
"I don't know, he is like 4'2" I think they found him in a tree making cookies. "

Later that day, numerous people started calling me elf, and the nickname has stuck with me. so I made it my own.

Whats funny is, in my professional career, I actually worked for Elf AtoChem.

I am both a Tolkien and Harry Potter fan, and read R.A. Salvatore.

 

[DrPlastic]

IIRC it is recommended that when driving on snow or sand you should shut off traction control.

 

[jsalbre]

IIRC it is recommended that when driving on snow or sand you should shut off traction control.

If you’re in deep snow off of public roads and you’re getting bogged down then sure, turn off traction control, but that would be a bad idea on snowy public roads.

 

[Roger2486]

As stated, make sure traction control is off to ensure full power to all wheels while in 4-WD; otherwise this may account for a lack of power at each wheel as the computer senses the tire / wheel slipping and is trying to maintain control. Just a thought.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

As stated, make sure traction control is off to ensure full power to all wheels while in 4-WD; otherwise this may account for a lack of power at each wheel as the computer senses the tire / wheel slipping and is trying to maintain control. Just a thought.

As has been answered - that isn't what this is. It's not traction control and you don't want to disable traction control while driving on public roads or in town.
This is about the front axles. Not traction control. It's not lack of power.
This is a mechanical issue inherent in any of this type of front axle system, even in vehicle with no traction control. My 95 did it. It didn't even have full ABS.

 

[PyrPatriot]

That's what u-joints do in front axles when making a turn.......... any vehicle with that cross-type u-joint will bind when turning and in 4H. Even on very slick snow pack mine will do it.

It's one reason the optional transfer case with 4H-auto has CV joints up front.
My F250 would hop like a kid on sugar when taking turns or parking while in 4 wheel drive.

Same with my Sport. But 4Auto wasn't an option when I got my JT

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Same with my Sport. But 4Auto wasn't an option when I got my JT

If it had been, I'd have been all over it. I want it - but I love this truck too much to be able to justify a change now. It's doing fine for my needs.

 

[jsalbre]

If you really just want to eliminate crow-hop you *should* be able to just swap out the u-joint axle shafts for the OEM CV joint axle shafts. It's about $1000 worth of parts. There's always RCVs if you want super heavy-duty, but they're going to be more maintenance intensive than OEM units.

 

[Rusty PW]

If you really just want to eliminate crow-hop you *should* be able to just swap out the u-joint axle shafts for the OEM CV joint axle shafts. It's about $1000 worth of parts. There's always RCVs if you want super heavy-duty, but they're going to be more maintenance intensive than OEM units.

The RCV axles are not maintenance intensive. 3 pumps of grease once a year through a grease fitting. You don't have to take them apart.

 

[jsalbre]

The RCV axles are not maintenance intensive. 3 pumps of grease once a year through a grease fitting. You don't have to take them apart.

I didn't mean to imply that they needed a lot of maintenance, just that the maintenance they need is more than the factory "sealed" CV axles. They also commonly need rebuilding eventually as they tend to start clicking. The RCVs are tougher I'm sure, but if you aren't worried about snapping an axle shaft the OEMs are going to need less attention paid to them.

 

[Rusty PW]

I didn't mean to imply that they needed a lot of maintenance, just that the maintenance they need is more than the factory "sealed" CV axles. They also commonly need rebuilding eventually as they tend to start clicking. The RCVs are tougher I'm sure, but if you aren't worried about snapping an axle shaft the OEMs are going to need less attention paid to them.

I have the RCV axles in my Power Wagon. Have over 70,000 miles on them. Never been apart. They have been perfect. The only maintenance to them is the grease. I put the RCV's in after snapping 2 axle u-joints.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I have the RCV axles in my Power Wagon. Have over 70,000 miles on them. Never been apart. They have been perfect. The only maintenance to them is the grease. I put the RCV's in after snapping 2 axle u-joints.

Apples and oranges in many ways, you are talking about a truck, I'm talking 4x4 car, but the CV joints in the front axles of my cars (Eagles) have lasted for years and many thousands of miles. The only times I've ever had to do anything was when a boot split. I've never had one make a sound or go bad as far as the actual joint.
So - if you've been running what would be heavier-duty joints, even though it's a heavier truck, they should last a very very long time in the JT as long as they are greased (on those you can grease) or the boots are kept intact (on the sorts that use boots)
I have yet to replace an axle with a CV joint due to joint failure itself.

 

[Rusty PW]

Apples and oranges in many ways, you are talking about a truck, I'm talking 4x4 car, but the CV joints in the front axles of my cars (Eagles) have lasted for years and many thousands of miles. The only times I've ever had to do anything was when a boot split. I've never had one make a sound or go bad as far as the actual joint.
So - if you've been running what would be heavier-duty joints, even though it's a heavier truck, they should last a very very long time in the JT as long as they are greased (on those you can grease) or the boots are kept intact (on the sorts that use boots)
I have yet to replace an axle with a CV joint due to joint failure itself.

I wasn't responding to you. But to the other poster about what he said about the RCV axles being more maintenance intensive. With the RCV axles. You never have to worry about a boot splitting. They don't flex like a regular cv boot. They don't flex at all.

 

[CerOf]

So, on my ZJ and my WJ, it woood bind a little bit at full lock. This was with cv joints.

CV joints will help, but they won’t eliminate it.

Pick your battles, pick where you want to spend the money, and you do you!

Personally, I’ll keep my u-joints. I’ve been there, done that with torn boots.

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