Heres a New Issue...

[mrmo]

Here's a new issue I haven't heard of. To start the story, im at the dealer yesterday for the last of my Jeep Wave freebie, and the service guy tells me I need the fuel filter changed, every 1other oil change. Well I already did it around 12k. Then he starts in with I need the differentials changed. I've only had it in 4wd about 10 times so the front is prob good, and yeah, I'm at the 20k mark on the rear and shudda changed it by now. So I ask him how much, $280, holy shit, I will do it myself thank you. They pulled some out of the fill hole into a paper cup to show me it was dark...ok...yeah, ill take care of it. Then the big one, i have a major oil leak...WHAT?? I check my vehicles a LOT, and there's no leaks. Turns out its a turbo seal, getting oil carrying over into the CAC inlet. Its like they took the tube off looking for it as if there's another prob that owners are unaware of. Everything is sealed and no external leaks that I'm aware of. They are claiming the turbo has to be replaced, of course I'm assuming gaskets, drains and seals, etc. with some way to clean the tube and the CAC. I didn't see any of it and the service guy wasn't giving me much info, so I do t know what the story is. Has there been turbo oil seal issues? He said warranty covered and they have order parts. Not real pleased. ?

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[sharpsicle]

I mean, it's possible it's true. Frequency of occurrence doesn't mean yours does or does not have an issue. If they've diagnosed it and warranty covers it, seems open and shut to me, no skin off your back. I'm curious what you've got saying it's not true.

Your profile says you have a 2020 though. Is that true? Because no 2020s have ecodiesels, let alone turbos. If that's the case then definitely they're lying. ?

 

[Sandevino]

If you have a major oil leak you’d be a quart or more low. Did the dealer tech mention anything about low oil volume in the engine? I suspect not. You will get some oil in the charge air cooler (CAC) through normal operation and this is nothing to be concerned about.

I would get it noted in the system and get them to write up a repair order estimate. If you are within the 3/36 warranty this would be covered but it’s a fairly extensive process to pull the turbo as it’s at the back of the engine.

I suspect this is a warranty work up sell having not seen your piping….

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If you have a major oil leak you’d be a quart or more low. Did the dealer tech mention anything about low oil volume in the engine? I suspect not. You will get some oil in the charge air cooler (CAC) through normal operation and this is nothing to be concerned about.

I would get it noted in the system and get them to write up a repair order estimate. If you are within the 3/36 warranty this would be covered but it’s a fairly extensive process to pull the turbo as it’s at the back of the engine.

I suspect this is a warranty work up sell having not seen your piping….

He said it was a warranty thing - I'd say, let 'em.

I don't believe a "major oil leak" would result in that much of a drop. A cup of oil will spread all over your engine - or floor, like nobody's business. If it leaked a quart there'd be oil all over creation if it was external - that would be enough to more than cover the whole underside and drip to the floor.

 

[Rusty PW]

Turbo replacement. I'm not sure, but think the body has to be lifted to get to the turbo.

 

[Sandevino]

He said it was a warranty thing - I'd say, let 'em.

I don't believe a "major oil leak" would result in that much of a drop. A cup of oil will spread all over your engine - or floor, like nobody's business. If it leaked a quart there'd be oil all over creation if it was external - that would be enough to more than cover the whole underside and drip to the floor.

You’ll likely have to set visiting hours to come see it while you wait for parts.

 

[mrmo]

I mean, it's possible it's true. Frequency of occurrence doesn't mean yours does or does not have an issue. If they've diagnosed it and warranty covers it, seems open and shut to me, no skin off your back. I'm curious what you've got saying it's not true.

Your profile says you have a 2020 though. Is that true? Because no 2020s have ecodiesels, let alone turbos. If that's the case then definitely they're lying. ?

Nope, ordered new, 2022 Willys, received it from the dealer in Jan 2022

 

[mrmo]

I mean, it's possible it's true. Frequency of occurrence doesn't mean yours does or does not have an issue. If they've diagnosed it and warranty covers it, seems open and shut to me, no skin off your back. I'm curious what you've got saying it's not true.

Your profile says you have a 2020 though. Is that true? Because no 2020s have ecodiesels, let alone turbos. If that's the case then definitely they're lying. ?

Huh, your right, profile says 2020!! Its not, will have to work on changing that

 

[mrmo]

Sandevino,

I agree, oil gets sucked in from the crankcase vent and will go into the CAC inlet, have carry over in my large diesels the same way before I put in catch cans. Im thinking they are making a big deal out of nothing. I really dont want them friggin with the engine. Opens up errors that never end IMHO

 

[Rusty PW]

Does anyone know of a catch can set up for our diesels? I've been thinking of it lately.

 

[sharpsicle]

Just keep in mind: If they have identified something that requires service, something that is covered by warranty, and you choose not to get it fixed, then you likely won't have coverage if it actually fails later. Refusing service of earlier identified issues can be used to deny a warranty claim if it goes boom later on for a related reason. It is easy to point to that refusal as 'neglect' which is a valid reason to deny warranty work. And now that it's documented, you'll be hard pressed to say you never knew an issue was brewing.

You could spend time and money trying to fight that if/when it happens, but why risk putting yourself through that in the first place? I would say it's better not to tempt fate.

 

[@californiajeeping]

Does anyone know of a catch can set up for our diesels? I've been thinking of it lately.

not needed the oil burns just as good as fuel

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

Man…. If anyone ever pulled the tubes on any of my tdi’s, the 2.8 crd, or the 5.9…. There is always oil in the pipes….
The only one that’s frustrating is the tdi’s… every other year I pull the intercoolers and clean them out (usually a ton of oil crap water stuff in there…)


hey- on the bright side. New turbo ??? see if you can get some photos of what they are seeing/talking about…. Interested in what seal is supposedly shot.

 

[mrmo]

Im not concerned about the oil burning, the engine doesnt care except its not all that good for the emissions side (gummy ass oil coating) but I do have concern with the CAC being clogged up with residual oil

 

[Rusty PW]

That oil gets inside the intake and turns hard after a while. Not good.

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