How do I get my my jeep out of Theft Mode ?? HELP

[Mr._Bill]

Buy one of the boots that locks onto the wheel. That will stop most attempts. Of course, you'll have to budget extra time every day for install and removal.

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[ShadowsPapa]

Buy one of the boots that locks onto the wheel. That will stop most attempts. Of course, you'll have to budget extra time every day for install and removal.

I've seen several reports that suggest that some thieves will see that sort of thing and assume that some measures have been taken and move to something more easy.

The problem here is that you don't really know how far they got - "theft mode" or something else they did.
If they wiped out all fobs - then you would need to get the original added back in.
A locksmith might help there, but honestly - I'd want an assessment of exactly what might have been done.

Jeep/FCA aren't the only ones with access to the bus that's too easy.
How about Rav4 thefts through headlight CANbus access?
People keep blaming Jeep, FCA and so on - many vehicles with the CANbus and wiring that can be accessed, which rides that bus, can be used. CAN is communication area network - like a lot of other networks, a lot of things ride it. (There's also LIN (Local Interconnect Network) bus and so on)

Here's from just one article about such thefts -


Stealing a car via its headlight might seem ridiculous, but Tabor and Tindell worked together to discover exactly what was going on — starting with error alerts in the telematics system.
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Removing the headlight from the front of the vehicle, it turns out, provides handy access to wiring which links in to the CAN bus. Further snooping revealed that unnamed sites on the dark web will happily take a few thousand dollars in exchange for a device which looks like a Bluetooth speaker but which can actually be wired into the CAN bus through these relatively easily-accessible wires in order to carry out an attack which unlocks the vehicle and starts the engine — no key fob required.

"[The device] looks just like a JBL Bluetooth speaker," Tindell found, after purchasing one for experimentation. "And inside it mostly still is (it’s missing the speaker). The CAN Injector is grafted on to the JBL circuit board, enclosed in a big blob of resin. It turns out it’s about $10 of components: a [Microchip] PIC18F chip that contains CAN hardware, plus software pre-programmed into the chip (known as firmware), a CAN transceiver (a standard CAN chip that turns digital signals from the CAN hardware on the PIC18F into the analog voltages sent on CAN wires), and an extra circuit connected to the CAN transceiver."

Block access in one area, they'll find another. Create a better anti-theft system, they'll create a better thief.

 

[OldSarge]

I just ordered the 41.22 starter relay bypass based on a prior theft thread. Best option I’ve seen to prevent this

 

[HooliganActual]

I just ordered the 41.22 starter relay bypass based on a prior theft thread. Best option I’ve seen to prevent this

Give us a thread when you install and your thoughts afterwards. I'm interested!

 

[fireproof69]

I just ordered the 41.22 starter relay bypass based on a prior theft thread. Best option I’ve seen to prevent this

Yeah, sounds interesting. Share more when you have it installed.

 

[OldSarge]

Give us a thread when you install and your thoughts afterwards. I'm interested!

Will do. Seems pretty simple

 

[HooliganActual]

Will do. Seems pretty simple

Agreed, read through the installation instructions and it would be one of the easier installs I've done on my build. Really curious to see if it works as advertised.

There are so many threads here about theft prevention and I consider myself a "realist" (an optimist with prior experience), so I know that NOTHING will prevent real thieves from stealing a vehicle; but if I can make it harder during amateur hour...I will.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Guys so my Jeep was broken into , they broke passenger back window for access and tried to hard wire or something from the glove-box connectors . Security of my building came onsite and thieves ran away . The person was caught in camera holding a handful of cables , I'm assuming some kind of harness to bypass the key fob or something . Now I cant turn on the Jeep , Says FOB not recognized and alarm goes off . Does anyone know how to get it out of theft mode so i can drive it? Got to get that window replaced , was quoted $160 installed . but need to get it to start first

Thanks !!

It’s not theft mode. They reprogrammed it so your fobs no longer work. It needs to be programmed for yours again.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I just ordered the 41.22 starter relay bypass based on a prior theft thread. Best option I’ve seen to prevent this

I'd be interested IF it looked exactly like the stock relay, including cloned numbers.
Otherwise, if I had a scanner attached and saw an error and pulled the top of the PDC/fuse panel off and saw an obvious change along with the correct codes, pretty simple fix.
Seems to me anyone who gets far enough into it to the point of actually starting it is quite well equipped to get past simple things. Heck, I bypassed the fuel pump relay on my 4.0 with a short jumper, and have done the same with vehicles I could not get to crank as a troubleshooting method.
So the more it looks real, the better.
Just a thought - to make it harder, such a relay with hood locks......... then they can't just pop the hood, jump the relay and move on.
Not poo-pooing it, just trying to think through - if I was at the point of stealing a Jeep and got so far as to being ready and able to crank it, and it failed to crank - I'd likely be equipped to deal with relay and fuse issues.
Hood locks would slow me down a lot and I might just move on.
So I'd likely couple such a relay with a hood lock.

(my wife asked me last week how easy it was to get into the engine and battery and such - "does my hood lock"? (she's NOT a Jeep person or even a car person, couldn't tell oil from antifreeze) - I told her - 10 seconds and your hood opens, no locks at all, two latches you flip, release the safety and the hood floats right up)

 

[ShadowsPapa]

It’s not theft mode. They reprogrammed it so your fobs no longer work. It needs to be programmed for yours again.

That exactly.

 

[ChecksOut]

I'd be interested IF it looked exactly like the stock relay, including cloned numbers.
Otherwise, if I had a scanner attached and saw an error and pulled the top of the PDC/fuse panel off and saw an obvious change along with the correct codes, pretty simple fix.
Seems to me anyone who gets far enough into it to the point of actually starting it is quite well equipped to get past simple things. Heck, I bypassed the fuel pump relay on my 4.0 with a short jumper, and have done the same with vehicles I could not get to crank as a troubleshooting method.
So the more it looks real, the better.
Just a thought - to make it harder, such a relay with hood locks......... then they can't just pop the hood, jump the relay and move on.
Not poo-pooing it, just trying to think through - if I was at the point of stealing a Jeep and got so far as to being ready and able to crank it, and it failed to crank - I'd likely be equipped to deal with relay and fuse issues.
Hood locks would slow me down a lot and I might just move on.
So I'd likely couple such a relay with a hood lock.

(my wife asked me last week how easy it was to get into the engine and battery and such - "does my hood lock"? (she's NOT a Jeep person or even a car person, couldn't tell oil from antifreeze) - I told her - 10 seconds and your hood opens, no locks at all, two latches you flip, release the safety and the hood floats right up)

Hood lock was one of the first mods on my last two Jeeps (JLU and JT).

 

[Lunentucker]

So much great anti-theft advice here!
But don't forget to purchase a sturdy and strong ground anchor system for your Jeep, because the really good pros are using heavy duty helicopters to snatch them up these days too!

Seriously - If they want it they're gonna get it

 

[pcrawfordpt]

Tazer offers a theft protection option to enter a code through the buttons on the steering wheel. I wonder if this can be bypassed as well through the CAN? Hike-It and other throttle controllers also offer a theft protection mode that disables the throttle…push on the accelerator and nothing happens Until you reactivate the throttle through a code. I have a starter bypass similar to the 41.22 in my TJ. It uses a reed switch instead of a toggle switch. The reed switch can be hidden in plane sight and requires a magnet to turn on…much more stealth than the toggle switch. I made the suggestion to 41.22 to make that an option. Don’t know if they considered it or not?

 

[Lunentucker]

Tazer offers a theft protection option to enter a code through the buttons on the steering wheel. I wonder if this can be bypassed as well through the CAN? Hike-It and other throttle controllers also offer a theft protection mode that disables the throttle…push on the accelerator and nothing happens Until you reactivate the throttle through a code. I have a starter bypass similar to the 41.22 in my TJ. It uses a reed switch instead of a toggle switch. The reed switch can be hidden in plane sight and requires a magnet to turn on…much more stealth than the toggle switch. I made the suggestion to 41.22 to make that an option. Don’t know if they considered it or not?

It's a "live" feature.
As soon as the Tazer is removed it's gone.

 

[Caspien]

I'd be interested IF it looked exactly like the stock relay, including cloned numbers.
Otherwise, if I had a scanner attached and saw an error and pulled the top of the PDC/fuse panel off and saw an obvious change along with the correct codes, pretty simple fix.
Seems to me anyone who gets far enough into it to the point of actually starting it is quite well equipped to get past simple things. Heck, I bypassed the fuel pump relay on my 4.0 with a short jumper, and have done the same with vehicles I could not get to crank as a troubleshooting method.
So the more it looks real, the better.
Just a thought - to make it harder, such a relay with hood locks......... then they can't just pop the hood, jump the relay and move on.
Not poo-pooing it, just trying to think through - if I was at the point of stealing a Jeep and got so far as to being ready and able to crank it, and it failed to crank - I'd likely be equipped to deal with relay and fuse issues.
Hood locks would slow me down a lot and I might just move on.
So I'd likely couple such a relay with a hood lock.

(my wife asked me last week how easy it was to get into the engine and battery and such - "does my hood lock"? (she's NOT a Jeep person or even a car person, couldn't tell oil from antifreeze) - I told her - 10 seconds and your hood opens, no locks at all, two latches you flip, release the safety and the hood floats right up)

Sounds like you could/should install a Bolt lock, just to 'take the hint' from the wife, as it were

Sure, it won't stop someone with a cutoff tool, but if it gives her additional peace of mind...happy wife and all that


~ Casp

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