Hurricane six?

[wildtaco]

I was just at the local dealership talking with a Finance Manager and he told me that there are some new engine options coming out for the Gladiator but wouldn't say what they are. I'll believe it when I see it. I did a 3000 mile round trip drive on my ecodiesel and had some major issues with the DPF on it. Driving around town it works fine no issues but after about 5 hours on the highway it seems to start having issues no longer clears and the DPF doesn't activate and it fills up and goes into limp mode and you have to do a manual regen to clear it out. Makes for a very long trip when it happens every few hours after that. I was reading that it could possible be due to my build being on 42s with 4.88 gears it can't get hot enough and I need to run the trans in manual mode in a lower gear.

Are you towing anything and are you watching EGTs (exhaust gas temps)? I noticed that inlet EGTs on these get very hot very fast unless you're manually shifting for higher RPM (air moving faster resulting in lower EGTs). I suspect this is the cause of the typical DPF limp mode issues.

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[Reddog]

there are way more people with zero issues than otherwise. Compared to the new tundra the jeep gladiator may as well be a 2004 Camry reliability wise

That's very true. But the issues we are seeing are big ones, not rattles and leaks. All or most of the so-called offroad vehicles are having troubles due to EPA standards. You can only squeeze so much mileage and so much power from an engine before it becomes unreliable. The continuation of all this is the end of the gas and diesel powered vehicles, which is the goal I believe. People need to be voicing their displeasure with these companies and their practices. Nothing will change unless people complain. I have yet to talk to one owner of a Jeep electric who is happy with his vehicle.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

I have a 2023 JTR gasser. I have 22K on it and have had no real problems thus far but recognize this may be just luck. When everything in a vehicle is fly-by-wire, you better be darn sure that those systems work before selling that vehicle. What I don't understand is why, after all these years of building Jeeps, Stellantis can't build a Jeep without fundamental problems. The list of issues is well documented on this site. Not all are the fault of the manufacturer but many, many are. The latest is an electrical problem (perhaps) with the steering gear drive motor. The problems with the diesels all stem from EPA regulations that so cripple the options the company can use to provide a trouble free powerplant that it is all in vain. Diesels in most vehicles are doomed, at least under the present regulations. Maybe I'm getting old and crankier but is it too much to ask that a vehicle that costs more than $62K should be reasonably trouble free? I previously had a JK with an LS3 conversion. It currently has over 125K on it with zero engine and drivetrain problems. It met all required EPA regs for emissions. As soon as there is another DIY conversion kit available for the JT platform, I have a brand new LT1 crate motor sitting in my shop that is going into my truck. I won't buy another Stellantis built Jeep. I'm done with the company.

In my opinion, they're all junk now.

Even the LS had/has lifter problems recently. Not sure if they sorted that out yet.

 

[BlackRuby23]

The 392 is not giving the mpg numbers they would need.

I have less than zero interest in a 392 V8. I am interested in higher fuel mileage, not dyno numbers.

 

[Jrgunn5150]

The Cherokee and Durango have been pushed 6 months, the Charger is in launch limbo, they're all in on the RamCharger right now, Wagoneer sales are in freefall, Recon is in PV phase...

There's no money, bandwidth, or appetite for redesigning the engine compartment of an outgoing platform that's already had it's MCA.

 

[Reddog]

In my opinion, they're all junk now.

Even the LS had/has lifter problems recently. Not sure if they sorted that out yet.

The LS motors with the cylinder drop feature have issues but not the ones without it to my knowledge.

 

[Iam_Gladiator]

Down at the Jeep dealership a few days ago. I’ve bought three recently. An ETorque, Pentastar, and Ecodiesel. The Ecodiesel is the only one that’s practical for pulling anything. Great fuel economy too but the reliability has been unreal. Five trips attempted from Salt Lake to Missoula and only actually made it once without a failure. One catastrophic.
The sales manager at Salt Lake Valley Jeep said we will see a Hurricane Six very soon. Incredible specs but… I can find nothing on the Internet to substantiate his claim.
Has anyone actually heard or seen anything?
I’m starting to think he was mistaken or confused.

Well supposedly they working on already a variant that fits the wrangler and gladiator engine bay. The current turbo I6, allegedly won’t fit. But that’s what I’ve heard from YouTube channels.

 

[Iam_Gladiator]

I currently have a 2020 Ecodiesel and a 2021 Pentastar. Up I 80 over the Wasatch mountains the Pentastar hardly makes it while revving into the stratosphere, even without towing. My Ecodiesel works but is no longer offered. I won’t do another Pentastar even considering it’s great reliability.

I just want something that’s not going to blow up or catch on fire. Is that too much to ask?

 

[Jrgunn5150]

Well supposedly they working on already a variant that fits the wrangler and gladiator engine bay. The current turbo I6, allegedly won’t fit. But that’s what I’ve heard from YouTube channels.

The variant is the 4 cylinder. The 6 is GME-T6, the 4 is GME-T4.

Variants of each are the ICE powerplant of choice through the next design cycle.

 

[MaximusTX]

if you lock it into 6th and keep the revs in the 2300 range it should clear that after a regen. You should also be putting 2oz EDT into every fill up if you aren’t. If those two things don’t fix the issue the DPF is needing replacement

Thanks, I have been putting 1oz of EDT in it every fill up but I can increase that to 2oz if that will help. I did start put in 7th and that puts the RPMs around 2300-2500 on the hwy.

 

[MaximusTX]

Are you towing anything and are you watching EGTs (exhaust gas temps)? I noticed that inlet EGTs on these get very hot very fast unless you're manually shifting for higher RPM (air moving faster resulting in lower EGTs). I suspect this is the cause of the typical DPF limp mode issues.

Not towing anything with it. I wasn't monitoring the EGTs at the time but I am now but I am not sure what the temps should be. I also removed the Banks Derringer to have some warranty work done and haven't reinstalled it again yet either.

 

[wildtaco]

From what I've read, you shouldn't go above 1200F for extended periods of time. I've been trying to keep it under and it's fairly doable but honestly it can be a PIA to have to keep monitoring the temps. I haven't done any long distance (>3 hour) trips since my DPF was replaced so I can't say for sure whether or not this is the solution but it does make sense.

 

[Uparms]

I wish we could get the 6-T. We won't.

Next new motor will be the hybrid. Part of the reason the plant is shut down now.

I got no interest in that either. I am happy with the 3.6. The 8 speed makes it!

 

[legacy_etu]

The Cherokee and Durango have been pushed 6 months, the Charger is in launch limbo, they're all in on the RamCharger right now, Wagoneer sales are in freefall, Recon is in PV phase...

There's no money, bandwidth, or appetite for redesigning the engine compartment of an outgoing platform that's already had it's MCA.

Are they canning the Charger launch completely, or just the EV version of the car??

 

[hepcat]

I currently have a 2020 Ecodiesel and a 2021 Pentastar. Up I 80 over the Wasatch mountains the Pentastar hardly makes it while revving into the stratosphere, even without towing. My Ecodiesel works but is no longer offered. I won’t do another Pentastar even considering it’s great reliability.

I dunno... I towed my (about 6k lbs loaded) '20 Airstream Globetrotter 23' FBQ over the 9500' La Veta Pass in Colorado without any issues at all in my '22 Overland with the Pentastar 3.6. Made about 4,000 miles on that trip from Iowa to New Mexico and back.

ON EDIT: I traded the 23' Airstream for a 27' Airstream after that trip. Obviously the Overland wasn't enough truck for the larger trailer. I bought a RAM 1500 Laramie with the max tow package, Hurricane I6 and a 3:92 rear end. With about 2500 miles towing the bigger trailer with it, I can confidently say that the Hurricane is a pretty sweet setup. I still have my Overland, BTW. We traded the '22 Honda Pilot for the RAM 1500.

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