Is it worth "pre-emptively" buying a fuel pump and installing it yourself?

[21_GLADIATOR]

hmm I did not know there was a separator to be drained. ok.

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[Dougstdig]

hmm I did not know there was a separator to be drained. ok.

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hmm I did not know there was a separator to be drained. ok.

iff you look up under the vehicle under the driver seat and in front of the fuel tank you’ll see a small round skid plate with a teardrop hole in it. Theoretically, you can attach a rubber hose to the fitting and rotate a valve. Well my sausage fingers won’t allow this and there are only 3 small bolts holding it on. To me it was easier to just remove it. Unfortunately, I failed to snap a pic of the valve itself. But I just attached the hose on one end and placed the other end into a 20oz. bottle so I could see or identify how much water it was holding. When the filter housing quits draining tighten the valve back up. Set the bottle aside to the water will settle, then either reinstall the skid plate or remove the whole filter cap to change the filter. There are numerous vids on YT. Just don’t forget the rubber gloves!!! There isn’t a ton of fuel that gets out, but a little goes a long way.

 

[22EcoDs]

Fml ok thank you.. thought this only applied to manual locks but I guess not

I have the electric tail gate lock.

 

[Belcher24256]

I bought my truck with a few thousand miles on it certified pre-owned BUT like the title.. is it worth it? I dont want to be stuck on the side of the road or have my truck at the dealer for weeks....

edit.. Did I miss this post somewhere? There is apparently a RECALL on our fuel pumps coming out in June??


"Jeep and Ram are recalling 45,711 vehicles amongst the two brands due to a faulty high-pressure fuel pump installed to certain diesel-powered vehicles.

Yes, this recall only involves the diesel models, and it’s limited to specific model years, too. Affected vehicles include the EcoDiesel models of the 2021-2023 Jeep Wrangler, 2021-2023 Jeep Gladiator, and 2022-2023 Ram 1500.

The 3.0-liter turbodiesel under the hood of these vehicles could have been built with a high-pressure fuel pump that “could fail prematurely,” Stellantis says. The recall notice states that a high-pressure fuel pump failure “may introduce internally failed component debris into the fuel system potentially causing fuel starvation.” As for a warning, Stellantis says you may notice a malfunction indicator light or service electronic throttle control light. More extreme indicators would be a fuel leak at the pump or excessive noise from the pump.

As of this recall, Ram and Jeep say it’s aware of seven customer assistance records, 126 warranty claims, eight field reports, and three other service records that are potentially related to the issue. The fix is a simple one. Stellantis says it will replace the high-pressure fuel pumps in all affected vehicles with pumps that are more durable. Owners and dealers should expect notices to be made starting on or around June 2."

I received the recall on my 22 JT about two weeks ago. I called the dealer and the service and parts department is expecting it to be a fourth quarter repair. I asked what that meant and he said they don’t expect the parts until September or October. Because I called he said they will call me when parts are in.

 

[SargeDiesel]

I bought my truck with a few thousand miles on it certified pre-owned BUT like the title.. is it worth it? I dont want to be stuck on the side of the road or have my truck at the dealer for weeks....

edit.. Did I miss this post somewhere? There is apparently a RECALL on our fuel pumps coming out in June??


"Jeep and Ram are recalling 45,711 vehicles amongst the two brands due to a faulty high-pressure fuel pump installed to certain diesel-powered vehicles.

Yes, this recall only involves the diesel models, and it’s limited to specific model years, too. Affected vehicles include the EcoDiesel models of the 2021-2023 Jeep Wrangler, 2021-2023 Jeep Gladiator, and 2022-2023 Ram 1500.

The 3.0-liter turbodiesel under the hood of these vehicles could have been built with a high-pressure fuel pump that “could fail prematurely,” Stellantis says. The recall notice states that a high-pressure fuel pump failure “may introduce internally failed component debris into the fuel system potentially causing fuel starvation.” As for a warning, Stellantis says you may notice a malfunction indicator light or service electronic throttle control light. More extreme indicators would be a fuel leak at the pump or excessive noise from the pump.

As of this recall, Ram and Jeep say it’s aware of seven customer assistance records, 126 warranty claims, eight field reports, and three other service records that are potentially related to the issue. The fix is a simple one. Stellantis says it will replace the high-pressure fuel pumps in all affected vehicles with pumps that are more durable. Owners and dealers should expect notices to be made starting on or around June 2."

I would say no. Not really that many failures to begin with. They are exaggerated on the forum because this is where we all come to bitch. If I was worried, I would add a good lubricant like HotShots LX4 and wait for the recall. Just my .02s.

 

[SargeDiesel]

Fml ok thank you.. thought this only applied to manual locks but I guess not

Goes by VIN, type of lock doesn't matter. Those with electric locks also have manual locks.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

If you have power door locks, shouldn’t automatically have the power tailgate lock?

Yes. The tailgate locks and unlocks with the other locks.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I had a Mopar filter on hand. I usually keep one in the vehicle in the event I get a bad gulp of fuel. The fuel filters aren't too expensive. I can't remember what I spent...$30-$50. I believe you're "required" to replace every 2 oil changes or 20,000 miles if I remember correctly. I've been doing oil changes at about every 5-6k and the water separator is supposed to be drained every other oil change. Being proactive, I had the fuel filter changed at 10K. I did my last oil change and didn't drain it until just before 20K on the fuel filter.

Seeing how several sources are now suggesting that there are multiple potential causes of pump failures, and water being a candidate mentioned in multiple places - and this is just me - if I had one of questionable pumps, I'd likely drain that water every oil change.
I don't know how difficult it is to get to and do on these since I don't own one, but it's something that other than time, it's free to do. Filters - who knows about some of the sources of fuel. Likely better than it was in 1975 but then, tanks age, management tries to save money.

 

[Dougstdig]

Seeing how several sources are now suggesting that there are multiple potential causes of pump failures, and water being a candidate mentioned in multiple places - and this is just me - if I had one of questionable pumps, I'd likely drain that water every oil change.
I don't know how difficult it is to get to and do on these since I don't own one, but it's something that other than time, it's free to do. Filters - who knows about some of the sources of fuel. Likely better than it was in 1975 but then, tanks age, management tries to save money.

2 major things that can be done are 1: keep the tank as full as possible to prevent or limit the amount of condensation that builds up in the tank and 2: fuel up at high traffic stations or truck stops.

Regarding the filter and drain, it's pretty simple...especially if you have a dedicated 3/8 section of fuel line and a small supply of empty coke or water bottles to drain it into.

The requirement is to replace the filter every other oil change and when it's not ready to replace, you just drain it.

I may also stagger using Power Services Clear Service: " The Fuel Polishing Formula of Clear-Diesel Fuel & Tank Cleaner removes water and slime, disperses contaminants and stabilizes fuel during long-term storage. "

...and during the warmer months "
DIESEL KLEEN +CETANE BOOST
A total injector cleaner and performance improver.

Diesel Kleen +Cetane Boost is loaded with cetane, detergent and lubricity improver to provide peak diesel performance."

...and cooler months: "
DIESEL FUEL SUPPLEMENT +CETANE BOOST
A winterizer/antigel.

Diesel Fuel Supplement +Cetane Boost prevents fuel gelling and protects against fuel-filter icing."...if I move back up north. I really haven't had to worry about freezing weather but maybe 4-6 days in the last 2 years.

 

[Almost]

Is there a specific fuel filter you buy? dealer or aftermarket? thanks.

Gladiator 22_JT_OM_EN_USC (mopar.com)

Fuel Filter (Page 398): We recommend using Mopar® Fuel Filter. Must meet 3 micron rating. Using a fuel filter that does not meet the manufacturer filtration and water separating requirements can severely impact fuel system life and reliability.

 

[Almost]

"Jeep and Ram are recalling 45,711 vehicles amongst the two brands due to a faulty high-pressure fuel pump installed to certain diesel-powered vehicles."

"As of this recall, Ram and Jeep say it’s aware of seven customer assistance records, 126 warranty claims, eight field reports, and three other service records that are potentially related to the issue.

Interesting as this is the first I'm seeing these numbers. Assuming this is accurate this is a whopping 144 out of 45K vehicles which is a failure rate of just 0.003%. This is way under what was reported in the Gladiator reliability poll on this site (link below). I think we got a few jealous gassers on this site skewing the results lol.

Diesel Engine issue tracking thread... also please post if NO issues! | Jeep Gladiator Forum - JeepGladiatorForum.com

 

[Jteakus]

I drain my water separator every time I rotate my tires.

 

[willhonkforparts]

I bought my truck with a few thousand miles on it certified pre-owned BUT like the title.. is it worth it? I dont want to be stuck on the side of the road or have my truck at the dealer for weeks....

edit.. Did I miss this post somewhere? There is apparently a RECALL on our fuel pumps coming out in June??


"Jeep and Ram are recalling 45,711 vehicles amongst the two brands due to a faulty high-pressure fuel pump installed to certain diesel-powered vehicles.

Yes, this recall only involves the diesel models, and it’s limited to specific model years, too. Affected vehicles include the EcoDiesel models of the 2021-2023 Jeep Wrangler, 2021-2023 Jeep Gladiator, and 2022-2023 Ram 1500.

The 3.0-liter turbodiesel under the hood of these vehicles could have been built with a high-pressure fuel pump that “could fail prematurely,” Stellantis says. The recall notice states that a high-pressure fuel pump failure “may introduce internally failed component debris into the fuel system potentially causing fuel starvation.” As for a warning, Stellantis says you may notice a malfunction indicator light or service electronic throttle control light. More extreme indicators would be a fuel leak at the pump or excessive noise from the pump.

As of this recall, Ram and Jeep say it’s aware of seven customer assistance records, 126 warranty claims, eight field reports, and three other service records that are potentially related to the issue. The fix is a simple one. Stellantis says it will replace the high-pressure fuel pumps in all affected vehicles with pumps that are more durable. Owners and dealers should expect notices to be made starting on or around June 2."

Yes, you missed numerous posts about the cp4 recall. There have been a couple recalls (or at least multiple groups of VINS added to the same recall, I'm not sure).

 

[jav_eee]

Don’t buy a new pump and swap it. It isn’t a wear issue, it’s an instant water ingestion issue that causes disintegration of the pump. Guys the ford dudes (maybe even chevy and ram) have been fighting with this since the 6.7 went into service. Buy your fuel and a high-volume fuel station and don’t worry about it! Filters don’t stop water. Good luck!

 

[@californiajeeping]

Don’t buy a new pump and swap it. It isn’t a wear issue, it’s an instant water ingestion issue that causes disintegration of the pump. Guys the ford dudes (maybe even chevy and ram) have been fighting with this since the 6.7 went into service. Buy your fuel and a high-volume fuel station and don’t worry about it! Filters don’t stop water. Good luck!

Filters have water separators….

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