JEEP STOLEN FROM SAN DIEGO. What next to secure? any and all ideas are welcome

[Janster]

Air tags are traceable and need other phones to react with. Unconnect can be disabled or subscription not active.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/...eps-are-crazy-easy-to-steal-apparently.59602/

Uconnect is always active with or without a subcription. Uconnect (or whatever Jeep calls it) is similar to Onstar. You’re always connected. You don’t need a subscription to hit the SOS or emergency button. The police can track the vehicle without you having a subscription.

And yes…Apple airtags uses other phones to ‘triangulate’ the position of the airtag - that happens silently and nobody knows its happening. Airtags are activated and setup by YOUR phone/account. Nobody else can trace YOUR airtag.

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[Janster]

All they do is bring a blank FOB, rip your glovebox off, plug in 2 connectors, program the key using their programmer ( many available ), and leave. 60 seconds tops. They need nothing from you. Faraday box for FOBs does nothing here.

It's criminal that Jeep does NOTHING to address this vulnerability.

You can’t blame Jeep…. In fact, all manufacturers are probably doing the same thing with ‘security features’ - but the criminals are figuring it out much faster.

Yes…as a whole, the auto industry needs to continually keep up with security. That’s not something they can pull outta their asses overnight to fix it.

 

[smlobx]

This:
https://ravelco.com/
claims to be able to keep a vehicle from being started.

Back in college / grad school I worked part time at a gas station, where I learned to drive a tow truck towing vehicles in for repair as well as illegally parked vehicles to the impound lot. Not being able to start a vehicle does nothing to prevent someone with tow truck from taking a vehicle.

This is what I have in my Spyder. Many in the high end sports car community have this. So far so good, but the car is in a locked garage with security cameras as well.

 

[Lost1wing]

Wondering if locking the glovebox adds a few more minutes of protection?

If he left the window down, he wouldn't be dealing with the broken glass and replacing a window. A plastic glove box doesn't stand a chance if locked, just more mess to clean up. Star connector locks (epoxy) relocations could slow the thief down., but these inbreds will trash the rig on the way out if defeated. The OP had it right. Hopefully just a window and a little mess to clean up. Imagine a low life seeing gobs of epoxy over the star connector. If this was his only way he knows how to get access, he will be pissed and do more damage just to get even.

Trackers are nice if they work or are not found.

A kill switch is nice, hopefully the thief will think he did something wrong and leave.

I think the Government should enforce longer prison sentences for these clowns who steal. This third fourth chance crap is getting old. Now the gangs are enlisting minors to do the heists for that very reason. The kids get off most of the time.

 

[Lost1wing]

Damn…that sucks!! So, that thing behind the glove box…
What exactly did they do? Or maybe you can’t answer that…

I’m guessing some type of ‘code’ reader…. but but….You’d think it really shouldn’t be that easy!!

It shouldn't be that easy! People like easy access to their own vehicles. So the theives take advantage of those access points.

 

[Lost1wing]

I'll never buy blazer again. I hadn't gone to the range in a couple of months and something told me to check my clip. Thank god I did because the back pressure would have destroyed my face.

Agr

Uconnect is always active with or without a subcription. Uconnect (or whatever Jeep calls it) is similar to Onstar. You’re always connected. You don’t need a subscription to hit the SOS or emergency button. The police can track the vehicle without you having a subscription.

And yes…Apple airtags uses other phones to ‘triangulate’ the position of the airtag - that happens silently and nobody knows its happening. Airtags are activated and setup by YOUR phone/account. Nobody else can trace YOUR airtag.

But the theif could see the air tag in the area. If he keeps an eye on it as he is driving away, he will assume it's in the vehicle somewhere. Still a good idea to have, but it is not hidden electronically. Samsung phones are very popular too. I have an air tag and a smart tag. Neither work well in a shipping container.

 

[RHINO79]

You could move to a small town. Nothing stopping these criminals otherwise, bummer.

 

[GI Grandpa]

Uconnect is always active with or without a subcription. Uconnect (or whatever Jeep calls it) is similar to Onstar. You’re always connected. You don’t need a subscription to hit the SOS or emergency button. The police can track the vehicle without you having a subscription.

And yes…Apple airtags uses other phones to ‘triangulate’ the position of the airtag - that happens silently and nobody knows its happening. Airtags are activated and setup by YOUR phone/account. Nobody else can trace YOUR airtag.

Not true. I have the app "Tracker Detector" and it alerts me if I am in the presence of an Air Tag. Problem here in Colorado and I assume elsewhere, thieves place an air tag on your vehicle at the store and then use it to track you so they can steal it of something in it or on it later.

 

[willys 41]

hello all

two days ago I was extremely fortunate to be out walking my new puppy when I saw my Jeep pass by down the street between two buildings.
fortunately it's such a bright color and so highly modified it that I recognized it out of my peripheral vision and looked up and managed to verify not only that it was in fact Nacho.Diesel but I also observed the driver and another vehicle closely following it. I immediately called 911, the officers arrived in just a few minutes and in working with some federal agencies and the power of social media, the Jeep was located and seized from the thieves just as it was entering Mexico approximately 40 minutes later.

I was asked not to add many more details as there will be legal proceedings BUT what I can say is the thieves broke out my d side window, climbed over to passenger compartment and accessed the terminal behind the glovebox to make a new key. I don't know approximately how long it took for this to happen but I do know the Jeep was seen still parked approximately 30 minutes before I saw it driving by.

I have been splitting my time since dealing with the incredible officers dealing with my situation, getting glass replaced and doing a ton of research between short anxiety filled naps where I make myself get up and go check on the Jeep. I am looking for any and all ideas on how to both electronically and mechanically deter theft.


For my own anxiety's sake and for the rest of our incredible community, please toss in ideas or any experience with things you've tried or heard about

TIA

Layer of protection is the key.
1. Reroute horn wires and horns so they can't be cut. If they look for the horns in the standard location they are not there.
2. Drone Mobile. Can do many things. Mine is hard wired and will alert me for movement/towing/ its location/engine start and glass braking. It has its own battery back up .Most important it being hard wired and well hidden.
3. Ravelco.
4. Tazer with pin enabled and hood open. Enabled.
5. Tazer NoLimitz. The key fob can not be duplicated.
6. Viper simple alarm system. Movement/glass braking/doors open/hood or tail gate open.
All devices can be defeated put the chances of defeated all 6. Slim.
If they try to tow it all alarm's will go off and my Drone Mobile will show it location even if the jeep battery has been disconnected.
The Drone Mobile can be hidden any where in the jeep. Rear quarter panel/ behind door panels/ behind dash cluster. Any where you can get switched (key on) voltage and content voltage.

 

[Janster]

Not true. I have the app "Tracker Detector" and it alerts me if I am in the presence of an Air Tag. Problem here in Colorado and I assume elsewhere, thieves place an air tag on your vehicle at the store and then use it to track you so they can steal it of something in it or on it later.

I was only referring to the airtag & phone. Theoretically…from Apple’s perspective - your account/phone is the only thing that can dictate YOUR specific airtags position.

I’m not surprised there are other apps or devices to detect them. Do those devices let you actually see and PICK one of them to track it to its exact location? I’d be totally surprised if you could - Apple would have a major issue with that.

I’m not surprised of criminals putting airtags on vehicles either……

So, why would you use a “Tracker Detector”? To verify there isn’t one on your vehicle? If you were to TEST the Detector….how close do you have to be for it to notify you?

 

[WILDHOBO]

Not true. I have the app "Tracker Detector" and it alerts me if I am in the presence of an Air Tag. Problem here in Colorado and I assume elsewhere, thieves place an air tag on your vehicle at the store and then use it to track you so they can steal it of something in it or on it later.

That’s nasty.

 

[WILDHOBO]

Independent gps monitoring is more expensive than air tags, but it alerts no one, and doesn’t get disabled when thieves remove the head unit to kill uconnect.

 

[Flyboy2109]

Sorry about the damage and theft.

This is just another reason to stop using fobs for vehicles and go back to the keyed ignition. I guess the 'little bricks' in our pockets are here to stay-easier for the manufacturers. I never got my key wet and have the vehicle not start...

 

[Janster]

You could move to a small town. Nothing stopping these criminals otherwise, bummer.

I live in the burbs…but far from any big city and farmland in my back yard. I feel lucky as we don’t hear too much about ‘serious organized & intelligent criminals’.

Around here…… It’s mostly quick grabs and porch pirates. If you park in front of your house in the driveway - you’d better LOCK IT (And don’t leave anything valuable inside). They go around checking for unlocked doors…..

This makes me think of the Glitter bombs…

 

[ScottBeach]

Well. My 2 cents. Trace that interface cable back to the source. And disconnect on the source side. Then a thief would be none the wiser the interface is dead ( I assume they are not bringing a signal tester ) they won't get your truck using this method again.
I would just cut the lines at the source and create quick connectors to reestablish function when/if needed by the dealer. Don't cut it at the back of the glove box. Since that wouldnt t help you avoid theft

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