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I had a thought... much like the dealer can technically adjust wheel calibrations, and that's now available in programmers... I wonder if a programmer, like the TazerJL could have access to the steering parameters...?
It'd be interesting.
That would be interesting. But I don't think it'll ever happen. A guy could argue that there are a lot of features in a tuner that carry some liability. But, empowering the end user to screw around with steering input is REALLY sketchy and I just see that ending poorly in some cases. So I'd be surprised to see a tuning company tap into the new electric steering systems these days. They probably won't touch that with a 10-foot pole.
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That would be interesting. But I don't think it'll ever happen. A guy could argue that there are a lot of features in a tuner that carry some liability. But, empowering the end user to screw around with steering input is REALLY sketchy and I just see that ending poorly in some cases. So I'd be surprised to see a tuning company tap into the new electric steering systems these days. They probably won't touch that with a 10-foot pole.
I generally agree - but I think a lot of the settings are a liability concern. I mean, line lock? LoL or freezing all 4 brakes at once...
 

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Air down, be happy. When I picked up our JLR tires were 44 psi. from the dealer. Like riding on metal roller skates and handled like them too. Now, at 36 psi, rides smooth and doesnā€™t grab road imperfections at all.
I did, and I'm happy now. Drives great at 37psi no more "loose steering" at highway speed.
 

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Most of the problems reported are from people who have never driven a Jeep, a straight axle vehicle or anything built before 1990.

Straight Axle vehicles with big tires chase the road so to speak. On a moderately windy day, something shaped like a box will get blown all over the road.

Someone coming from a Camry or Accord or premium sedans will not feel comfortable driving a Jeep.

The real problems are over inflated tires, steering stabilizer failure, and steering box calibration.

The tires have been overinflated at the factory. Dealers do not check this at delivery. I aired my JL down from 45 psi to 37 psi and it drove like a dream.

There is a TSB to flash the computer to fix power steering assist in cold weather. On a cold day, I would loose power steering boost. One flash fixed this issue.

Jeeps are not for everyone. If you are not a long time Jeeper, test drive one before you buy. If you can rent one, drive it for a week. Make sure itā€™s for you.
I think you have nailed it. Your thoughts were my thoughts as I read thru this thread.

Your driving a Barn door down the road at highway speed, the wind is NOT your friend. First time in your life you drove a vehicle with a solid front axle and NO INDEPENDENT front suspension!

Oh wait, it gets worse, far worse! Down at the Sonic drive they are laughing at Mister 2 in Richard errr Lift and his tiny shoes so you slap on some new tires called BigMeats, cram 2 socks down your Dockers and put on a BigBoy Lift kit. Now you have so much turbulence under your Jeep and it sitting so high up in the air, you can't pass a car cause that weak V6 can spin those BigMeats and when a guy passes you the wind almost blows you off the road.

The fix you saw on the Forum WeBJeepers says to just install a Double Dirty Dog Twin Super adjustable Steering stabilizer. Now you wife can't drive it at all and your arms are beginning to look like Popeye as you have sugar plum dreams of driving that Accord...
 

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Airing down to 37 psi helped tremendously, even driving through the winds and storms up the East coast yesterday.
 

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I noticed mine being loose first off the bat. I had a 18 grand Cherokee before and same thing, but there was an option for sport steering on that car that tightened up quite nicely. bad thing about electric vs mechanical. I saw a vid that its normal and is designed that way for offroad use. too bad we drive 99% on streets. my tires are around 35-36 and it still wanders all over the place .
 

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Hi Everyone,

Does anyone else feel like the steering is really loose in their JT? Can I have Jeep ā€œtighten it upā€?

Iā€™ve owned two wranglers, and most recently had a Grand Cherokee.... none seemed loose.

This is my first pick up.... so maybe itā€™s normal for a truck?
Air down to recommended 37,35 psi. ;{
 

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Was driving my 2003 TJ Rubicon with 6" lift and 35s this weekend and it still drives straighter than my JT Rubicon. I've adjusted my tire pressure down to 34psi (35" KO2s) and it's gotten marginally better. Was reading some of the JL threads and some replaced their track bar. I love the JT but the steering is driving me nuts.
 
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Most of the problems reported are from people who have never driven a Jeep, a straight axle vehicle or anything built before 1990.

Straight Axle vehicles with big tires chase the road so to speak. On a moderately windy day, something shaped like a box will get blown all over the road.

Someone coming from a Camry or Accord or premium sedans will not feel comfortable driving a Jeep.

The real problems are over inflated tires, steering stabilizer failure, and steering box calibration.

The tires have been overinflated at the factory. Dealers do not check this at delivery. I aired my JL down from 45 psi to 37 psi and it drove like a dream.

There is a TSB to flash the computer to fix power steering assist in cold weather. On a cold day, I would loose power steering boost. One flash fixed this issue.

Jeeps are not for everyone. If you are not a long time Jeeper, test drive one before you buy. If you can rent one, drive it for a week. Make sure itā€™s for you.
Where are you getting this information about the TSB? Is it for a Gladiator? The only TSB I see for a Gladiator is regarding the fuel system, nothing to do with steering.
 

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Where are you getting this information about the TSB? Is it for a Gladiator? The only TSB I see for a Gladiator is regarding the fuel system, nothing to do with steering.
These issues are the same as the JL.

You will find quite a bit of information on the JL forum.
 

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I read some of the JL threads and didn't see a clear answer. Similar to here, there were various opinions on the "fix".
 

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The fix is a class action lawsuit, it is steering HELLO a safety item!!!!
 

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The steering is definitely kooky. My wife will not drive it anymore and her last vehicle was a 2010 Jk Rubicon. Iā€™m used to it now, but it really drives like my first vehicle, a 1979 CJ-5. I assume there will eventually be a TSB. @JeepCares.
 

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The steering is definitely kooky. My wife will not drive it anymore and her last vehicle was a 2010 Jk Rubicon. Iā€™m used to it now, but it really drives like my first vehicle, a 1979 CJ-5. I assume there will eventually be a TSB. @JeepCares.
Hi Lumberjack500,
Thank you for tagging us! If you or any of your fellow forum members would like to have this documented as well as be connected with a case specialist to assist you while you work with your dealer, we are available via private message!
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I have a brand new 2019 JLU Rubicon and a 2020 JT Gladiator Rubicon. I had a 2018 JLU Sahara before the 2019 JLU Rubicon, and this JT is a totally different feel behind the wheel. It feels like handling a wet noodle! I drove my wife's Wrangler and it was tight and handled super good......next day back in my JT and I'm all over the road. It's a handful to drive.....I've put a little over 1000 miles on it and it is definitely a lot looser than my other Jeeps. Don't really know where to go from here, but I'm afraid to even upgrade wheels/tires or install a lift because I'm afraid it will have to go to the dealership for service and I don't want to be blamed for the issue.
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