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It looks like the Overland comes with SL tires.
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It looks like the Overland comes with SL tires.
That’s what I was thinking, but off-road vids of an overland with stock tires is hard to come by. I found one vid, but it was like watching someone trying to swim in the kiddy pool.
 

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I tried to run 34.5" on 20 inch rim sl tires on my ram and found the sidewalls to be too soft. It just squirmed in turns and felt very rolly Polly. Obviously different truck but similar weight. After that I try to limit how big of a sidewall I go with on SL tires.
 
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Given your requirements I'd recommend an all-terrain LT tire in load range C, same diameter and width as stock.

I went from the stock narrow street tires to somewhat wider all-terrain LT load range E of the same diameter, and only lost a little MPG, but gained better handling, load carrying, and puncture resistance. If you want the lighter weight and maybe a softer ride, use load range C instead, and choose shocks accordingly when it's time to replace them.

And I would never recommend SL tires for any kind of trail, including a gravel road.
This is pretty much where my thoughts are as well; sometimes the grass looks greener on the other side of the fence.
 
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I tried to run 34.5" on 20 inch rim sl tires on my ram and found the sidewalls to be too soft. It just squirmed in turns and felt very rolly Polly. Obviously different truck but similar weight. After that I try to limit how big of a sidewall I go with on SL tires.
Thanks for that reminder, I wasn’t entirely thinking about sidewall height either.
 

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I had the Bridgestone Revo 3's in 315/70-17 (load range C I believe) on my 21 Mojave. They were actually 1 lb lighter than the factory Wildpeaks and absolutely loved tem

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I like what you’re thinking here; I’ve been trying to do the same. When I look those up on Bridgestone’s website they are showing as E ( unless I’m looking at the wrong ones ). I’m assuming that you weighed one combo, what was your finished weight ( 92lbs )?
 

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I like what you’re thinking here; I’ve been trying to do the same. When I look those up on Bridgestone’s website they are showing as E ( unless I’m looking at the wrong ones ). I’m assuming that you weighed one combo, what was your finished weight ( 92lbs )?
That was a couple of years ago so they may have been an E...rode great though! The combo weighed right at 88lbs. Not sure if it was the tires (60lbs) or wheels (26lbs) being slightly heavier than advertised.
 

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The SL tires are 10+ lbs lighter than the OE LT tires. I’ve been super impressed with the Wildpeaks, and have used them to do some exploring within several hours’ drive. I’m not sure that I really need an LT tire for what I do, and I’m thinking that the SL tire might give me some benefits ( ride, mpg, less wear on components, … ). Does anyone have any experience with taking a Mojave to a SL 33” tire, and what did you find?
I know its been a couple of years, but what did you end up doing ? Did you go with an SL?
 

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And I would never recommend SL tires for any kind of trail, including a gravel road.
Apparently I feel like arguing with 3 year old comments on the internet today :D

So here's the thing: I'm a geologist and I can tell you it depends entirely on the type of gravel that is being used. I have driven countless gravel forest road miles in 2wd hatchbacks with low profile performance tires and random airport rentals with overinflated half-bald tires. But I live in an area of igneous rock, and for reasons I won't bother to explain here most of that turns into not-sharp gravel. What WILL puncture tires is gravel derived from many of the types of sedimentary rock, particularly the shale and slate* variety. Especially if the gravely sorting screen size used at the pit is too large. This happens because those rocks naturally cleave at right angles, it's the same mechanism that makes them great flagstone for your walkway or whatever. That cleaving is what makes sharp points. Gravel is almost always local in nature so if sedimentary rock is all that is in a region it will be mined and used. Another hint is if or the local corporate fleet vehicles are also all running off-road tires, it's a sure bet you should too because a fleet manager has seen enough flat tires to know it's worth the extra cost for their business. If I travel for work to these areas we will rent HD pickups from Enterprise Commercial Truck specifically because they come from the factory with E-load LT tires. They are highway tires, but the plys and protection are still there.

"but I'm not a rock jock how would I know?"
- Look at the hills/mountains in your region. If all the visible rock you can see looks like a birthday cake with distinct layers, and that's the type of rock structure you see everywhere, It's likely sedimentary and there's a good chance the loose gravel/rock on the crappiest of local roads is going to be sharp. Easy to google examples include Utah/Arizona canyon lands, Banff, Canada, and most of southern Colorado.

*Yes I'm well aware slate is technically a metamorphic rock, but it's low-grade, notably sharp, and looks every bit the sedimentary layer to the casual observer.

Hope that helps someone somewhere someday!
 
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It looks like the Overland comes with SL tires.
Mine did, but it handles and tows and hauls so much better with E load Revo 3s and the ride is exactly the same as long as you don’t go over 35 psi. I got 60k out of my last set running them at 33-34. They wore evenly and they all had 4-5 32nd left. Those tires didn’t last long on my Jeep. I hated them and took them off when it was almost brand new.
 

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I like what you’re thinking here; I’ve been trying to do the same. When I look those up on Bridgestone’s website they are showing as E ( unless I’m looking at the wrong ones ). I’m assuming that you weighed one combo, what was your finished weight ( 92lbs )?
My E Load Revo 3s are only about 62 lbs. 62 or 64. They’re larger than Mojave tires (33.7”).
 

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I am running Yokohama at4 in the SL tire and have not had any problems to date. They are very quite, do not feel squishy on the road and they are inflated to 35-36 psi. ‘21 JTOD.
 
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I know its been a couple of years, but what did you end up doing ? Did you go with an SL?
I went with 35s but stayed on the narrow side for the better squish ( 11.5 wide A/T, C rated). We still go places that I wanted some extra puncture protection. My mpgs took a small hit, and I really don’t think that I need to carry a spare for 99% of the time.

that said, I do drive a lot on pavement and some gravel, so in the back of my mind, I wish I had a 2nd set of wheels to switch back and forth.

I have zero intention of ever going E rated.
 

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I went with 35s but stayed on the narrow side for the better squish ( 11.5 wide A/T, C rated). We still go places that I wanted some extra puncture protection. My mpgs took a small hit, and I really don’t think that I need to carry a spare for 99% of the time.

that said, I do drive a lot on pavement and some gravel, so in the back of my mind, I wish I had a 2nd set of wheels to switch back and forth.

I have zero intention of ever going E rated.
A lot of tires are only available in E rated. Some, like mine, are light and ride good. It’s definitely overkill in theory but it really depends on the tire. I still get stock MPG, even with a few inches larger than stock tires. Also, the towing has always been great with them so I really can’t complain. I think it’s partially why it tows better than my Colorado. It’s remarkably stable with 7k lb trailers.
 

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They came on my 1500 Rams and I evenyuallywent to a Nitto 275 65 20 which was an inch narrower and a half inch shorter than the BFG 35 12.50 20 they replaced.The big deal for me was its almost 10lbs per tire lighter which got rid of a vibration the heavier tires were causing
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