Must have options from factory?

[SpartanToJo]

My apologies. I should have taken the time to say that the wide 44’s are available on the High Altitude (and Sport, Sport S), but do not come as standard equipment. They come standard on the Rubicon and Mojave.

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[Wheelin98TJ]

My apologies. I should have taken the time to say that the wide 44’s are available on the High Altitude (and Sport, Sport S), but do not come as standard equipment. They come standard on the Rubicon and Mojave.

Wide axles are standard on the High Altitude.

They are part of the $9k Customer Preferred Package 24N that comes on every High Altitude.

You’ll see it on my window sticker listed under that package. All the options in that package are listed under it with no prices next to them.

 

[Dartboy]

So if i get the max tow package, i have to have black fender flares?

My 2021 Max Tow has painted fenders, I think they come with the Package upgrade along with the bumper with shiny accents and no air diverters on the fenders

 

[mtudb24]

The High Altitude also has the wide axles.

Did not know that. Thanks.

 

[spectre6000]

Interesting take. I view it as the exact opposite pretty much. Due to the pandemic, they dont have do anything to maintain sells whatsover. No one is going to the Broncos in 2022 because no one will be able to buy one. They are backed up basically a years+ worth of preorders already. Thats why dealerships are marking them up ~$25-50k above MSRP.

Interesting take. That may be the case right now, but a year from now will likely be very different, and plenty of people are still trying to pretend things are fine, just fine. They may be able to get away with laziness now, but it won't last and they'll lost in the long run. Management knows this. I don't think Ford's botching of yet another launch and producing crap products is really a good datapoint for anything other than Ford.

Additionally, because its so hard to get chips, it is going to be easier to obtain the chip that is already mass produced as opposed to converting to a new chip on a mass scale.

The shortage is primarily due to substrate manufacturing infrastructure. They have to make it either way, and it's not like it's a new design or anything. Unless there's some specific component that's specific to the UC5 that's especially troublesome, I don't think this holds up. If anything, having to manufacture two different parts instead of one would be motivation to move to UC5 even more quickly.

One last note, according to my research Wranglers have historically always been the last vehicle to get electronic upgrades and wranglers are allegedly 1 step above gladiators in the pecking order....

Agreed. I think JL/JT are the last that haven't received UC5 (still haven't verified this), so it would check out.

I will be absolutely shocked if UC5 is a MY22 option. Maybe they add it mid or late year in some trims though.

I wouldn't say I'd be shocked either way re: UC5, but I would be for the V8. Completely floored. I expect 4Xe eventually, but '23, maybe late-22. Probably not immediately, but it wouldn't really surprise me.

 

[dcmdon]

Selec-Trac - why have a vehicle with a 4wd system that is on the road inferior to a Subaru Forester.

If you live where it snows, its a no-brainer. Put it on in November and turn it off in May.

 

[Matts4313]

Agreed. I think JL/JT are the last that haven't received UC5 (still haven't verified this), so it would check out.

Im pretty sure *no* FCA vehicles have it outside of the Pacifica, Ram and Cherokee. So I think there about 10 other models ahead in the pecking order, haha

 

[TwelveGaugeSage]

Selec-Trac - why have a vehicle with a 4wd system that is on the road inferior to a Subaru Forester.

If you live where it snows, its a no-brainer. Put it on in November and turn it off in May.

Not available with a manual transmission. Not sure I would opt for it anyway. Never been a big fan of full-time 4WD. Of course, I'm a bit crazy in that I generally don't use 4WD in the snow unless I find I'm having trouble getting enough traction to keep up with traffic or I am pulling someone out of a snow bank. RWD is just too much fun in the snow.

 

[ShrimpHappens]

So if i get the max tow package, i have to have black fender flares?

At the moment, the online configurator requires the Popular Equipment Group on a Sport S if Max Tow is selected, and it includes painted fenders.

 

[JET_83]

It was a must for me. I didn't even think about it. My LED are far better than any halogens I've ever had.

no doubt, bud, difference is night and day, should be a standard option tbh.

 

[saintpauljeff]

Selec-Trac - why have a vehicle with a 4wd system that is on the road inferior to a Subaru Forester.

If you live where it snows, its a no-brainer. Put it on in November and turn it off in May.

Probably would have searched for a vehicle on the lot with this had the option existed back in 2019. Going through 2 winters with the regular 4x4 system hasn't been too bad, I've gotten good at manually switching between 2 & 4 wheel drive depending on the road condition. I like my MaxTow model however, so I'm keeping what I got.

 

[badger719]

I thought about Max Tow but (A) I don't ever plan on going past 35s for tire size and (B) the most I tow is a small 8 foot enclosed trailer that holds maybe 3500 pounds at the most.

I plan on flat towing the JT behind my skoolie motorhome conversion.

 

[Matts4313]

I thought about Max Tow but (A) I don't ever plan on going past 35s for tire size and (B) the most I tow is a small 8 foot enclosed trailer that holds maybe 3500 pounds at the most.

I plan on flat towing the JT behind my skoolie motorhome conversion.

Im in your same boat. I am 99% sure I will never tow above the standard 4k nor am I going to add huge tires. That said, the max tow upgrades so many significant parts (electrical, gearing, cooling, etc) that is seemed like a no-brainer.

You get 75% of the rubicon for $5-10k less. Not to mention they tend to be good for resale.

 

[badger719]

Im in your same boat. I am 99% sure I will never tow above the standard 4k nor am I going to add huge tires. That said, the max tow upgrades so many significant parts (electrical, gearing, cooling, etc) that is seemed like a no-brainer.

You get 75% of the rubicon for $5-10k less. Not to mention they tend to be good for resale.

I don't think many people outside this forum know or care about Max Tow. There's a reason why dealers were stocking very few Max Tow's on their lots (before the Great Inventory Shortage).

 

[Tackett1980]

auto tranny. more reliable and higher tow rating than manual. The auto has a manual mode when needed. The manual has a history of clutch problems (overheating).

Wider axles come with rubicon and max tow.

auto manual is not even the same animal as an actual manual.

I’d have rather gotten a manual. I loathe automatic transmissions.

+1 on the cold weather package.

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