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Hmmm, tie rod ends look a bit puny…….

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Rear solid axle is an e axle. That will be interesting to hear how it handles with that much unsprung weight.
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not a bad looking EV but as a Scout revival it is an Open net shot and miss ... sorry lost all the scout was about
 

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And we’re gonna get one. Even better w solid front end. Well at least you guys r gonna get one. Not sure it’ll ever come here. Which sucks.
I meant w/ generator_range extender not plug-in-20-mile-range-hybrid.
 

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I got one of each reserved 😬… love to have one for the wife and I. Might be bye bye gladiator at that time … wife has a BMW i3 w/REX that will be pretty tired by then.

I can’t believe the truck is 10,000lbs, Yeesh. First thing I critiqued was those tie rods… I’d love to see a solid axle off-road edition.
 

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Uwho makes a front bench seat anymore?
And not uni-body
Ford, Dodge, I have no idea about Chevrolet, but I have a new F350 Tremor Lariat in a bench. My buddies 2500 Ram has a bench front seat.

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I meant w/ generator_range extender not plug-in-20-mile-range-hybrid.
Yeah I got it. However on flip side 4xe will have the solid front end, properly removable roof, folding windshield etc etc. could go on and on. ..it gets forgotten how damned cool Jeeps are.

And depending on which way one looks at it, 4xe tech can be called a range extender. Why not? It is.

it’d be nice to see gladiator get an up rated 29kwhr battery for some extra pure ev range. Jeep cares, not sure if your caring for that advice, but it’s offered none the less.

Imho Jeep / Stella is the only brand that really commits to the concept.
They wrecked bronco and now scout w the horrid ifs front end.

Be honest about it if they stuck solid axles f/r on either scout or bronco jeep would have cause for concern.

…but these brands never do it. They never fully commit to the concept.

Scout looks ok. Infact it looks sharp. But where the heck is the little one? The shorty. What was it called? An 80?

Where’s the shorty? It looks tone like they re-did the least-cool Scouts that IH made. My two cents.

I’ve got a book on old Scouts but I don’t read about those two models they re-did. They sucked by then
 

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I think the Bronco was ruined for a lot of reasons but the IFA is not one of them.

Daily drivers and mall crawlers make up most of SUV and half ton truck sales for a reason. IFA simply rides better on the road. And with the exception of the Gladiator, every high speed off road truck on the market is running IFA, too.

Added benefit: No death wobble with IFA.
 

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I think the Bronco was ruined for a lot of reasons but the IFA is not one of them.

Daily drivers and mall crawlers make up most of SUV and half ton truck sales for a reason. IFA simply rides better on the road. And with the exception of the Gladiator, every high speed off road truck on the market is running IFA, too.

Added benefit: No death wobble with IFA.
Fair enough. It ruins it for me. I mean just think how cool that thing would be if really was solid front n rear end.

Pay that yes death wobble, yet everything has its price.

Im not an ifs or irs hater. I’m a purist. I love racing. Ifs/irs has its place and for me it’s the race track be it wherever the race track maybe be it is the correct application of the design. That and mall crawling yes.

i will never be convinced it has its place on a jeep jeep, a scout or a bronco reincarnations etc
 

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I think the Bronco was ruined for a lot of reasons but the IFA is not one of them.

Daily drivers and mall crawlers make up most of SUV and half ton truck sales for a reason. IFA simply rides better on the road. And with the exception of the Gladiator, every high speed off road truck on the market is running IFA, too.

Added benefit: No death wobble with IFA.
Yeah and I’m not sure I’d want a solid front end given that the rear is an E axle which means it carries all the motor weight on the axle. That’s a lot of unsprung weight Which may be somewhat masked in the rear but up front………maybe not so much.

image of an E axle for those that aren’t familiar. Everything is integrated. Supposedly gives great control and is very robust.
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Another company making garbage electric cars. The majority of people in the states do not want them. All one has to do is look at the sales numbers for these vehicles.
I would like to see a low tec diesel truck. Engine, transmission and a radio that's just a radio.
Agree. No ICE no care.
 

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i will never be convinced it has its place on a jeep jeep, a scout or a bronco reincarnations etc
I get your point and don't necessarily disagree if off-road ability is all you're after. Perhaps in your neck of the woods a truck is a truck and people who own them regularly go way out in the Outback, etc but here in Estados Unidos, the stats don't lie- most of these will never see so much as a gravel driveway. "Car-like" road manners are highly desirable by the majority of buyers. Hence, IFS.

In Jeep's defense, they've done a remarkable job overall with taming the road manners of ancient SFA/recirculating ball steering tech, especially in the Mojave.

Yeah and I’m not sure I’d want a solid front end given that the rear is an E axle which means it carries all the motor weight on the axle. That’s a lot of unsprung weight Which may be somewhat masked in the rear but up front………maybe not so much.

image of an E axle for those that aren’t familiar. Everything is integrated. Supposedly gives great control and is very robust.
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The E-axle is a game changer across the board. It allows for nearly zero power loss in transfer, unlike a traditional transmission-transfer case-drive shaft-pumpkin arrangement. Downside is like you said, a ton of unsprung weight. Could you imagine the potential torque steer of one?
 

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This is what the Gladiator 4xe should be.
Right out of High School my dream truck was the 1980 IH Scout with the Nissan Diesel. I like the way their engineers designed this to make it appear as an IH Scout would look if it was still produced. You are right Stelantis should learn from this, how cool would it be to take an old J20 or J10 Gladiator picup with the same thing in mind. In hindsight I think it might have been a mistake to name a Wrangler pickup a Gladiator.with that in mind.
 

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The E-axle is a game changer across the board. It allows for nearly zero power loss in transfer, unlike a traditional transmission-transfer case-drive shaft-pumpkin arrangement. Downside is like you said, a ton of unsprung weight. Could you imagine the potential torque steer of one?
Yeah, right? With over 1k ft/lbs of torque……. I saw A video of the Silverado EV launch and you could see the driver fighting torque steer and I think that’s “only” pushing 800 ft/lbs of torque.

I gotta say there’s lots to like in the specs of these things. The 800 v architecture is great to see too plus one thing no one has mentioned that I REALLY appreciate is their statement about not selling their customers data.
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