Red dots are to pistols, what ducks are to Jeeps

[daveb]

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[Minty JL]

Yes and no. I suspect it's relative to how long you've been shooting. And of course, if your fundamentals are solid.

It's been easier for me to change my shooting habits than most because I didn't grow up with firearms.

Then I try and tell my wife to change something... it takes 3 more people to tell her to do it before she finally does. I'm like, yeah, I told you to do that like 3 years ago.

Same for changing from iron sights to RDS. It's practice. Some will get it quicker than others. I've never liked iron sights so it was easier for me to move to RDS. If you've been shooting for a long time and now move to RDS, it's going to take you longer than you think.

I have astigmatism in my left eye, and for a time a slight one in my right. So no matter what happens, everything I look at is always a little blurry. Having to focus on fore- and back- grounds makes it more difficult for my eyes.

I find my G17 is a little harder than my G43X with repetition of acquiring the dot on draw. Probably because I don't shoot the G17 as much as the G43X.

You make valid points.

I also have a green dot on my Glock 43X MOS and it's just natural to me.......BUT I have been shooting with red or green dots on long guns for almost 20 years now and just recently on pistols, BUT like you said fundamentals are the foundation for success.

Cheers

 

[MPMB]

You make valid points.

I also have a green dot on my Glock 43X MOS and it's just natural to me.......BUT I have been shooting with red or green dots on long guns for almost 20 years now and just recently on pistols, BUT like you said fundamentals are the foundation for success.

Cheers

I did a training and one of the most common questions everyone asked was "how do you change from iron sights to RDS?" Instructor had the same answer that was going through my head - practice.

One guy - who was former LEO and .mil - was new to RDS. When we started shooting from distance, he couldn't hit the target because he didn't sight in before the event.

Practice. Repetition.

I don't practice near as much as I should.

 

[ericw.]

I do shoot both eyes open with iron sights. so both eyes isn´t what´s making me stumble with it. My issue is when I pull it up, for some reason my brain makes me hold the pistol I think barrel up slightly, when I am looking for the dot. I think you are right that lots of practice would help. The only problem with that is 40+ years of acquiring iron sights has formed muscle memory that is hard to break. There´s some truth to what they say about old dogs learning new tricks. LOL!

Do you shoot a glock? Sounds like your natural body mechanics aren't working well with the european grip angle.

I had this issue and tried to force myself to train through it and anytime I took a break from shooting, I'd lose it again.

I switched from Glock to Sig, M&P, 2011 and no longer struggle with that. Walther and HK would both be a good option also.

 

[DanW]

Do you shoot a glock? Sounds like your natural body mechanics aren't working well with the european grip angle.

I had this issue and tried to force myself to train through it and anytime I took a break from shooting, I'd lose it again.

I switched from Glock to Sig, M&P, 2011 and no longer struggle with that. Walther and HK would both be a good option also.

It´s the same with my Glock 40 MOS as it is with my S&W M&P .22 magnum. Also my son´s FN Reflex. I just have to go out and get a bunch of reps. But it´s not a priority because I´m on target fast and effectively with the irons. For me, the red dot on a pistol is a solution looking for a problem.

 

[Bandit’s Lair]

Do you shoot a glock? Sounds like your natural body mechanics aren't working well with the european grip angle.

I had this issue and tried to force myself to train through it and anytime I took a break from shooting, I'd lose it again.

I switched from Glock to Sig, M&P, 2011 and no longer struggle with that. Walther and HK would both be a good option also.

Not a fan of Glocks. For some reason my eyes do funky things with the corners on the slide. Weird I know but I’m used to floating between target and front sight tip. On the Glock my eyes kept going to the damn corners of the slide. Mid press id have to back off and reorient. I prefer tactical scoot and shoot stuff and I never left target shooting with the Glock.

 

[ericw.]

It´s the same with my Glock 40 MOS as it is with my S&W M&P .22 magnum. Also my son´s FN Reflex. I just have to go out and get a bunch of reps. But it´s not a priority because I´m on target fast and effectively with the irons. For me, the red dot on a pistol is a solution looking for a problem.

To each their own, stick to what works best.

Shooting and training is one of my primary hobbies. I take classes as often as I can. Pistols are my favorite but I shoot rifle and do night vision stuff too.

Not a fan of Glocks. For some reason my eyes do funky things with the corners on the slide. Weird I know but I’m used to floating between target and front sight tip. On the Glock my eyes kept going to the damn corners of the slide. Mid press id have to back off and reorient. I prefer tactical scoot and shoot stuff and I never left target shooting with the Glock.

yeah I tried to make Glock work for me. I thought that I'd just train through the struggles but after a couple years, it just wasn't happening like I'd hope.

When I started shooting other firearms, it became a lot easier and I enjoy it so much more.

 

[Bandit’s Lair]

When I started shooting other firearms, it became a lot easier and I enjoy it so much more.

Experimentation is the spice of life. I’ve been getting into single action wheel guns recently. Can’t do my usual stuff with em but they’re fun!! Challenging.

 

[ericw.]

Experimentation is the spice of life. I’ve been getting into single action wheel guns recently. Can’t do my usual stuff with em but they’re fun!! Challenging.

I'm really considering lever actions and wheel guns but I have a few expensive things already in the works. lol I need to finish some things before I start another project.

 

[Great Offender]

What are you "training" for?

 

[Zachanadandy]

What are you "training" for?

Self defense like everyone should be?

 

[Rcoe]

Experimentation is the spice of life. I’ve been getting into single action wheel guns recently. Can’t do my usual stuff with em but they’re fun!! Challenging.

Wheels guns are making a come back, seeing more and more young shooters using them in competition. A couple guys I shoot with will give average semiauto shooters a beating in a match. A lot more work and the gear is not cheap.

 

[Bandit’s Lair]

What are you "training" for?

Zombies of course!!!

 

[ChrisNLA]

I have a S&W Shield - basically the most loaded out factory Performance Center model they made at the time, and it came with a factory red dot sight.

I have not taken the time to get used to it though, so the sight is in the box and the blank off plate is installed. Years ago I used to go shooting so much more. We were always at the range.

These days, not so much - and if I do get shooting time, it's casual target shooting with one of my suppressed long rifles, or my 22s.

 

[Bandit’s Lair]

.22lr is a great caliber to have. I’ll always have my Ruger 1022 and my H&R 922 around. Not much for all out defense but solid and reliable.

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