Serious Spring Concerns

[Jarratt39]

I'm not sure how long they've looked like this, only noticed it recently. I have a 2.5'' Rubicon Express lift on a 2020 Rubi (springs are from the lift). Took it to a reputable shop in town for a quick look, without taking anything apart yet, they at least showed me that the springs are seated correctly. I've only done some minor off-roading in the last year or so, and never really sent it prior to that either. I'm just reaching for any possibilities before having it taken apart to try to determine if it's just garbage springs, or if it's something else. Thoughts? Similar issues?

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[chorky]

Looks like you need a proper alignment. I would start there first before doing anything.

 

[SoK66]

I agree. Check the caster angle, When you lift the front end you need to lengthen the lower control arms to not only correct the caster angle, but also re-align the lower spring seats into the horizontal plane.

 

[KevinC]

I agree with above. Longer front lower control arms will help. Spring bow is common without addressing castor.

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

Looks like you have Fixed length control arms…. Also you have one spring bowing forward with the other bowing rear….
so taking it to an alignment shop isn’t going to do much other than confirm if you need to throw money at adjustable arms.

does the jeep track down the road fine?

how old are the springs?

 

[Freems]

Just went through this with my JT, more than likely your springs are not seated and indexed correctly at the base, also make sure the plastic wrap on the base of the springs are put on correctly and then re-clocked into the spring seat. After doing this the springs set perfectly straight up and down. Mine was pulling to the right prior doing this readjustment and than has gone away since this fix. I hope this helps.

 

[Jarratt39]

Looks like you have Fixed length control arms…. Also you have one spring bowing forward with the other bowing rear….
so taking it to an alignment shop isn’t going to do much other than confirm if you need to throw money at adjustable arms.

does the jeep track down the road fine?

how old are the springs?

No issues while on the road, it tracks perfectly fine, which confused me even more. The springs are approx. 5 years old

 

[smlobx]

My AEV lift with upgraded springs don’t look anything like that and I have the factory control arms…

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Always love the term "reputable shop". It might mean that no one has recognized less than great work. I've fixed a lot of stuff screwed up by "reputable shops".

Anyway - make sure the top spring isolator is correctly seated and the nibs are through the holes in the top

Looks like you have Fixed length control arms…. Also you have one spring bowing forward with the other bowing rear….
so taking it to an alignment shop isn’t going to do much other than confirm if you need to throw money at adjustable arms.

And yet the MOPAR 2" lift, which gives lighter jeeps 2.25 to 2.5" of lift, comes with a FIXED LENGTH control arm - so judging by that, mine would be wrong - even though they are the .25" longer fixed length arms and do just fine with Synergy 2" springs............

 

[Camaroboi13]

And yet the MOPAR 2" lift, which gives lighter jeeps 2.25 to 2.5" of lift, comes with a FIXED LENGTH control arm - so judging by that, mine would be wrong - even though they are the .25" longer fixed length arms and do just fine with Synergy 2" springs............

I’d have to agree here. My 4.5” lift is on fixed control arms as well. I think he meant to say stock control arms, which is what looks like the OP has here. I would check the spring seats in the lower too, hard to tell but the driver’s side doesn’t look like it’s clocked correctly. Longer/adjustable LCAs would probably do a world of difference for this thing. Aftermarket companies make lower spring correction pads which may help as well. I’m using Rusty’s pads on mine, cheap insurance at 30 something dollars.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Sounds like he's had these springs 5 years??? And just now bowing like that?
Something has shifted. If it was the angle of the axle he'd have noticed it long ago -unless he never looks under there.
That's not a big lift, and shouldn't throw the axle tilt off far enough to cause troubles.

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

Always love the term "reputable shop". It might mean that no one has recognized less than great work. I've fixed a lot of stuff screwed up by "reputable shops".

Anyway - make sure the top spring isolator is correctly seated and the nibs are through the holes in the top



And yet the MOPAR 2" lift, which gives lighter jeeps 2.25 to 2.5" of lift, comes with a FIXED LENGTH control arm - so judging by that, mine would be wrong - even though they are the .25" longer fixed length arms and do just fine with Synergy 2" springs............

My point with bringing up the fixed length control arms was that his axle appears to be rolled in a weird way that fixed control arms wouldn’t be able to compensate for. Which is why I also called out one spring bowed forward and the other to the rear.

I do agree that springs are probably just old and worn based off what I have seen posted now.

 

[XraytecH]

Springs may not be clocked in the correct position. Check the lower spring isolators and make sure the springs a seated correctly.

 

[Vtur]

Springs coil ends on our Gladiators aren't squared cut, therefore the cut ends must closely matches to stocks springs to reused stock pads.

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