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Why does the Warn Zeon XP12-5 look like a carbon copy of the Badlands 12,00 Apex?
from the casing, to the wire box, to the removable flap for the winch cable on top. It's exactly like my Badlands..
Or am just seeing things?
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Form follows function. There are certain mechanical requirements for a winch and only so many ways to package them.
 

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I believe this is common in all products. For example, I just got the Rough Country Highline WF1 fenders and they look exactly like the Quadratec Baja HD fender flares but cost about $200 less. When I asked RC why is that? they're answer was, "...probably same manufacture."

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I personally like the Badlands Apex and have a couple of friends who have them. even though They are a bear to fit in the Rubicon steel bumpers, but I love a challenge.
 

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I dont think the Warn looks like the Apex as much as the Apex looks like the Warn if you know what I mean.
Yeah. Just like the Hercules sliding mitre saw is the same thing as my Dewalt DWS 780. The badlands winch is good, I own one. The Hercules is too. Good friend has one and I’ve used it a lot. It is what it is.
 
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I dont think the Warn looks like the Apex as much as the Apex looks like the Warn if you know what I mean.
Uhhh,, are they twins?🤪
 

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Not a total cut and paste but close.
 

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I dont think the Warn looks like the Apex as much as the Apex looks like the Warn if you know what I mean.
Twins named Dan and Dave (yeah, real twins, real names)
So did Dan look more like Dave, or Dave look more like Dan?

But yea, I know of a couple of great examples of products that were invented, then made in "another country" and in a few months, discount stores were selling the same product at a lower cost with different paint and tags and so on.
 

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I don't even use a winch anymore. I carry a Mongo.
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international out sourcing and the same two guys carving them All out of the same block of wood…
 

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My understanding is the Zeon is the one Warn winch made in China, so it's likely the same plant that builds the Badlands.

It happens a lot, a company says we want a product, they find an overseas manufacturer that already produces what they want, that manufacturer will produce them the same product but rebranded, or will use the same design and process but with different grade materials or different quality control standards. It all depends on the types of copyrights/patents/legal details on what they can get away with.

Probably the most common thing with overseas manufacturing is company "A" will design a product, then produce a mass amount of said product in order to sell batches to other companies for them to rebrand accordingly. All the same thing, just a different sticker. this is why so many roof top tents all look the same, they were designed by one company and sold to other companies to then sell as their own.
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