So what about those factory V8 Gladiator rumors?

[onewhippedpuppy]

Try a deeper gear. You can't pass in a 6mt gladiator in 6th. Also, even the owners manual says don't shift to 6th until 65 mph, so realistically, the way it's geared, 60 is too slow to even be in 6th, let alone to pass. Don't fear the gear. Up until 65, stay in 5th, and downshift to 4th to pass, or 3rd if you really need to go. 3rd gear tops out faster than your gladiator will likely even go (more than the 97 mph top speed of my Rubi). We have two overdrives. 6th is a super deep overdrive, and 5th is a more typical overdrive. Neither is conducive to passing. 4th/3rd for that.

This 3.6 is rev happy, and we're geared for highway mpgs, so you have to downshift deeply to pass/accelerate.

Bingo, I’m routinely in 3rd gear when passing in the Ozarks. 6th is useless at highway speeds if there are any hills at all, sometimes even 5th bleeds off speed. The rev-happy 3.6 is such a terrible match for a Jeep, having to rev the piss out of the motor doesn’t match the otherwise relaxed driving experience. The old 4.0 I6 wasn’t by any means fast, but having a torquey stump puller motor was just a better fit.

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[joeym7]

Mistakenly posted, deleted intentionally, many apologies!

 

[Gvsukids]

Bingo, I’m routinely in 3rd gear when passing in the Ozarks. 6th is useless at highway speeds if there are any hills at all, sometimes even 5th bleeds off speed. The rev-happy 3.6 is such a terrible match for a Jeep, having to rev the piss out of the motor doesn’t match the otherwise relaxed driving experience. The old 4.0 I6 wasn’t by any means fast, but having a torquey stump puller motor was just a better fit.

I enjoy manually shifting my auto through windy roads. Great for slowing down without braking and hightailing out of the corners.

 

[maligator]

Even if they do a V8 it will be like the Rubicon 392 where the dealers will have like 1 or no allocations and people get excited to find out they make a car that you cannot buy. If anything the hurricane i6 could give a more exciting option in the lineup. In the meantime the EcoDeisel has been great for me so far if you want to pay $5 a gallon

 

[DirkG]

Well I did watch a “Just Rolled In” video yesterday where somebody took their Tesla to a shop for an oil change…..

How appropriate would it have been if the mechanic pretended to service the vehicle, banged a few wrenches around and then said, "That'll be $100. I had to use synthetic." ?

 

[Uparms]

My focus has been watching for the Turbo -6 announced for the JT. They are doing away with V-8s. I am waiting for the Turbo 6 before I buy another JT. Place the order as soon as they announce.

 

[onewhippedpuppy]

How appropriate would it have been if the mechanic pretended to service the vehicle, banged a few wrenches around and then said, "That'll be $100. I had to use synthetic." ?

“Don’t worry, I used the Advanced Fuel Economy oil.”

 

[Stratus109]

Right now your only hope is that they stuff an inline 6 with the turbos into the glad. If not it will always be underpowered. And as far as the diesel goes, not everyone wants to pay the premium or have the extra weight with zero payload or trailer gains. Plus the DEf is a strategic liability. Basically the government handicapping your vehicle. The CEO leans left and is going all in On EV which is a huge mistake and a meme as far as any true off-road capability. I send 100’s of hours overlanding a year and id bring a mountain bike before I brought an EV. Its almost as if they are trying to make the ICE offerings as unattractive as possible.

 

[f33d]

Honestly. My dealer has a 392 coming in and offered it to me. Really debating the 20k difference.

 

[Geekjeep]

I Think the v8 is long gone unfortunately. I’ve had more than one hemi and they’re great but mileage isn’t they’re known for.
I think what we will see with jeep is something like the powerboost motor from ford . Which is kinda like the 4xe further evolved. I like the 4xe but I wouldn’t take it with the 2.0. That’s just an opinion though. I’ve heard good things about it the little motor. But would prefer simplicity if pentastar. The gladiators sell well but not like the JLs. There’s no incentive to make them bigger cause then it competes with the rams. Because if they offered a full-size gladiator. I don’t care what they charged I would find a way to buy one lol. Changes are good but everything is an evolution. Will take time to get there.

 

[Cpt Adama]

• A finite supply of fossil-fuels
• Crude oil supply in volatile regions of the globe

Sure there is a finite supply, but we are talking at least 3 or 4 generations from now. There are still vast reserves of oil. The only reason were in high fuel prices now is because the current president forced it upon us. Two years ago we were completely oil independent and we can easily be again. Prices go up when you cancel contracts for oil pipelines and drilling areas of known oil reserves.

Electric vehicles will be the future but it's going to have to overcome three main issues before it becomes common place:
1. Range (You need at least 500 miles)
2. Infrastructure and charging need to be convenient and quick
3. Price, it needs to be at least close to oil based fuel over the lifespan of the vehicle, which means if that battery pack has to be replaced 2 or 3 times in the lifespan of the car that cost is part of the total fuel cost for that vehicle.

 

[bleda2002]

1. Range (You need at least 500 miles)

I see this 500 mile range thrown around a lot, but I dont understand why its a requirement. None of my current cars can go 500 miles on a single tank, so I dont need a BEV to go 500 miles. Now I do expect it to be 300 miles or so and recharge at least 80% of that in about 10-15 minutes max. Assuming it can do that and chargers are as plentiful as gas pumps, then the major BEV hurdle of road tripping would be equal to what we already do today.

 

[Cpt Adama]

I see this 500 mile range thrown around a lot, but I dont understand why its a requirement. None of my current cars can go 500 miles on a single tank, so I dont need a BEV to go 500 miles. Now I do expect it to be 300 miles or so and recharge at least 80% of that in about 10-15 minutes max. Assuming it can do that and chargers are as plentiful as gas pumps, then the major BEV hurdle of road tripping would be equal to what we already do today.

Most cars today can do anywhere from 400-500 miles depending on gas tank size and fuel economy. The infrastructure is set up so you can easily take a vehicle cross country without worry of running out of gas. This is a standard today, being able to go cross country. Electric vehicles cannot do this. The 500 miles is a arbitrary base standard to meet a goal of being able to go cross country. Infrastructure will be the last thing that goes into place so having a vehicle that can extend to the next charging station is going to be critical to not be stranded in the middle of no where.

 

[The Duck of Earl]

I see this 500 mile range thrown around a lot, but I dont understand why its a requirement. None of my current cars can go 500 miles on a single tank, so I dont need a BEV to go 500 miles. Now I do expect it to be 300 miles or so and recharge at least 80% of that in about 10-15 minutes max. Assuming it can do that and chargers are as plentiful as gas pumps, then the major BEV hurdle of road tripping would be equal to what we already do today.

That could work, but... lifecycle of the battery also needs to be part of the analysis. Being able to do quick recharges at the expense of accelerated degradation of the battery pack is not an even trade.

 

[dcmdon]

Most cars today can do anywhere from 400-500 miles depending on gas tank size and fuel economy. The infrastructure is set up so you can easily take a vehicle cross country without worry of running out of gas. This is a standard today, being able to go cross country. Electric vehicles cannot do this. The 500 miles is a arbitrary base standard to meet a goal of being able to go cross country. Infrastructure will be the last thing that goes into place so having a vehicle that can extend to the next charging station is going to be critical to not be stranded in the middle of no where.

You are kidding right??

My gladiator is good for about 280 miles between fill ups. Yes, its technically got a 20 gal tank. But my range readout goes to "low" or zero, I forget, with 2 gal left. So if I run it until its on "reserve" I get about 300 miles.

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