Revealed: 2024 Wrangler Facelift Refresh With Major Updates & Upgrades

[Hootbro]

Seriously lol. I've been thinking about how viable the screen/dash swap would be. It would have to involve rerouting the air vents, a ton of wiring, and software changes.

I suspect it will be a total dash swap as the mount substructure for all those new items has changed.

Probably have to wait for a few to hit the salvage yards before somebody gets froggy and wants to try and figure it out.

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[wildtaco]

I suspect it will be a total dash swap as the mount substructure for all those new items has changed.

Probably have to wait for a few to hit the salvage yards before somebody gets foggy and want to try and figure it out.

I'm fully expecting another (SOLD) tag added to your sig

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Just watched this interview of head of Jeep by Total Recon dude. Sounds clear to me that we should only expect Jeep to push out an additional 4xe drive train into the Gladiator and nothing more.

Well, DUH.
Sorry, but those expecting other things are thinking very narrowly, and not being realistic or doing any future thinking.
I can't see a 4xe doing well in the JT unless they make some big changes, though. That 2.0 will be running pretty hard once the battery is down to <1% and it's up to the 2.0 to pull that 6,000 or 7,000 pounds behind it. Cooling will be the issue most of all.

I DO wish they'd do the hurricane - that I could love without even thinking about it.
But don't even think about anything other than 4xe, which is their future, or the hurricane (slim chance)

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I suspect it will be a total dash swap as the mount substructure for all those new items has changed.

That should be obvious even to a casual observer or one who has even only just had the center stack switches out to install the trailer brake controller.
Dash changes aren't just visual when such things are added to a dash, and you know what I mean. Wire harnesses, communications between all of the modules because the radio is an integral part - with security, routing of harnesses, ductwork, support structure, brackets.
But someone will figure it out. I might even be watching that YT video LOL

 

[ShrimpHappens]

well tell that to AmericasMost Wanted. They have a 6 month waiting list for hemi powered Gladiators right now with owners throwing down $35k on top of the cost of a new Gladiator for a 392 gladiator conversion. I was quoted 6-9 month wait for hellcat conversion.
clearly there is a demand.

Apples and oranges. AMW4x4 is catering to a niche within a niche and doesn't have to worry about all the testing, standards, and certifications that an OEM would.

 

[Dim]

Seriously lol. I've been thinking about how viable the screen/dash swap would be. It would have to involve rerouting the air vents, a ton of wiring, and software changes.

After looking a little bit more … and thought about what am doing with my 8.4 …. Only interesting thing is … wireless Apple CarPlay ;-)
And I kinda like the rond vents .

 

[montechie]

Apples and oranges. AMW4x4 is catering to a niche within a niche and doesn't have to worry about all the testing, standards, and certifications that an OEM would.

Definitely this, it's also hard for folks to really understand that companies like AMW and their net income are nothing burgers compared to just the Jeep Wrangler line item of Stellantis and the level they're interested in. A wildly good year of profits at a small corp like AMW wouldn't even get a project funded at a mega-corp. Larger corps need 50m, 100m, + dollar potential to consider a project and it's capital expenditure.

That being said, Jeep is probably one of the most likely mass produced vehicles to do stuff for enthusiasts vs someone like Toyota just for the brand marketing alone, but it would still probably need to be at a 5x AMWs total net or need to create a big stir for the cost.

 

[bleda2002]

Definitely this, it's also hard for folks to really understand that companies like AMW and their net income are nothing burgers compared to just the Jeep Wrangler line item of Stellantis and the level they're interested in. A wildly good year of profits at a small corp like AMW wouldn't even get a project funded at a mega-corp. Larger corps need 50m, 100m, + dollar potential to consider a project and it's capital expenditure.

That being said, Jeep is probably one of the most likely mass produced vehicles to do stuff for enthusiasts vs someone like Toyota just for the brand marketing alone, but it would still probably need to be at a 5x AMWs total net or need to create a big stir for the cost.

Fully agree, I'd also point out that an AMW swapped gladiator is 100K plus but people bitch that the 80K 392 wrangler is too expensive. In reality if there was so much pent up demand it would be selling even more than currently since a comparative AMW is going to cost you an extra 15-20K.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

well tell that to AmericasMost Wanted. They have a 6 month waiting list for hemi powered Gladiators right now with owners throwing down $35k on top of the cost of a new Gladiator for a 392 gladiator conversion. I was quoted 6-9 month wait for hellcat conversion.
clearly there is a demand. Maybe you don’t want a hemi but there are those of us who enjoy the sound and feel of a hemi.
More importantly a hemi isn’t stressed towing a 3500lb trailer. several JL owners on their forum are complaining their 4XE towing less than 3500lbs is stressing the engine and sounds like a sewing machine running at high rpm trying to maintain highway speeds when towing. More over they are getting less than 10 mpg. I pull a 6k trailer with my power wagon that has a 6.4 hemi. I never dip below 12mpg even in the mountains with a 7000+lb truck. My 800hp trackhawk still has factory cylinder deactivation and gets 18mpg on road trips. And most importantly to me: the kiddos love full throttle burnouts ?
I don’t know any adults saying things like “i remember the time dad got great mpg when I was a kid” ?
to each their own

Like ShrimpHappens said - very niche. You have a small number of people doing the conversions, without any concern for emissions, crash ratings and so on. They don't have to make annual reports on where the canister is, where the engine cooling fan is, how the air flows in the engine bay and around, the structure and components of the fuel fill system, nothing at all. they do the conversion, collect the money and move on to the next one.
VERY nice market. It takes a ton of time to do such conversions. I'm sure they don't have a factory in China or the US cranking out hundreds or thousands of the parts necessary to do the conversions. So it's a slow project.....

 

[BearFootSam]

A new trail-ready stealth antenna integrated into the front windshield replaces the previous steel mast antenna, streamlining Wrangler’s appearance and eliminating brush or tree limb snags on the trail.

Darn, no more antenna mods. ?

stones and rocks everywhere rejoice in anticipation...

 

[Hootbro]

I'm fully expecting another (SOLD) tag added to your sig

I wish, but the last two were just me playing the last couple years of high market equity and kiting into the next one with almost no cost to me. Those days are gone.

The only kit that interests me on the JL and if it came to the JT, is the full float axles. If that is plug and play, I then may be looking for one to do that.

 

[LouisvEarlleJT]

That's very different from the ones I'm used to.

Same here. I thought one of the major benefits of a full-floater in an offroad context was the ability to swap the axle shaft without taking the wheel/hub off. Looking at that picture it doesn't seem that is going to be possible?

In my "follow the dollar" thinking I wonder if they didn't want to produce separate rear wheels that would allow for the hub to pass thru.

 

[AKDrifter]

I will miss my fender mounted antenna. With an extended antenna I am getting clear AM reception 60 miles away around some pretty large mountains. The last 2 vehicles I had with the windshield routed antenna were a '72 Riviera and a '78 Eldorado Custom Biarritz Classic. Those both had dick for reception. The Cadillac did have a power antenna, for its factory CB, but regular radio reception was terrible in both. I'll miss being able to listen to the AM stations from Anchorage when I eventually get a new Jeep. The axle upgrade is fantastic, it will open up a ton of trailers to the Wrangler, makes it much more useful. I see a drop in Gladiator sales when the (cheaper) Wrangler can do close to what the (more expensive) Gladiator does. Power seats I don't really care much about. The dash does look pretty snazzy in my opinion. And if the new grill cools better I'm all for it. Overall a very worthy upgrade.

 

[Gvsukids]

The design puts the weight of the Jeep on the axle tube instead of the shaft.

Can I jump the Gladiator further?

 

[SSinGA]

Can I jump the Gladiator further?

Absolutely!

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