3.6 with air intake vs. 3.0 ecodiesel

[LouisvEarlleJT]

The 3.6 is a fine engine and does what it's supposed to do. I've driven in hilly terrain, highways, stop/go, etc. etc. I don't get all the hate and folks saying it's slug of an engine. I think that's a result of the internet echo chamber effect. It's semi-modern V6 gas motor in a "mid-size" truck that is actually closer to a full-size truck (of the late 90's early 00's) and performs as such.

I'd wager anyone claiming they have trouble passing cars on the highway or merging are trying to pass someone that's already doing 80 or something.

As for the warranty, Jeep has been using this motor for a while now and you can find plenty of high mile examples of JK's and early JL's still running just fine.

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[jac04]

... he thinks the 3.6 would be better for what I described above IF an air intake is added to it.

Once the guy claims that an air intake makes any noticeable power difference, you have to completely ignore everything else he's said.

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

Let me stand on the brakes and build a little boost before launch, the 3.6 is a dog.

Car and Driver doesn't do that? ?

The Car and Driver testing showed the same 1/4 mile time for the gas and diesel, but 1 more MPH trap speed for the 3.6.

It would be interesting to see a head-to-head.

 

[CrazyCooter]

My 21 diesel on 37s towing a Tentrax outran my buddy's 2020 gas on 35s on a 7% grade, but I bet he beats me in a flat land drag race.

 

[MF Comics]

Once the guy claims that an air intake makes any noticeable power difference, you have to completely ignore everything else he's said.

I remember going to a dealership years ago, sales man kept reading the spec sheet on the car every other word as he was describing it.

"This makes about *turns to read* xxx power from a *reads* x.x engine"

Only way I'd take his advice is if he added, "We also provide custom tuning and along with the intake we recommend these to capitalize on the gains"

 

[ShadowsPapa]

The 3.6 is a fine engine and does what it's supposed to do. I've driven in hilly terrain, highways, stop/go, etc. etc. I don't get all the hate and folks saying it's slug of an engine. I think that's a result of the internet echo chamber effect. It's semi-modern V6 gas motor in a "mid-size" truck that is actually closer to a full-size truck (of the late 90's early 00's) and performs as such.

I'd wager anyone claiming they have trouble passing cars on the highway or merging are trying to pass someone that's already doing 80 or something.

As for the warranty, Jeep has been using this motor for a while now and you can find plenty of high mile examples of JK's and early JL's still running just fine.

My 3.6 does fine. No, it doesn't rev NEARLY as high as my LS did when I had it. That LS had to smack up against 5,000 rpm to make the same hills my 3.6 makes at 3,300-4,300 and I don't see 4,300 all that much towing. Even OTR drivers have trouble with the hills on I80 east here. It's one reason traffic gets so congested on that highway - one goes to pass another, hits a hill and has to downshift and barely maintains speed, can't pass. Then they go down hill and the one passing almost gets around and they hit up hill again, and he has to drop gears, black coal pumps out of the stack and the cycle repeats over and over. It's a problem.
So for my 3.6 to easily tow my 5,000 pound rig on those hills of I80 east, that says something about it. No trouble maintaining the 65 mph speed limit. Could do faster if I was so inclined.
I haul stuff, I tow stuff, and my JT gasser is a daily driver. It's easy to maintain.
I've compared mpg my truck against what others say their 3.0 is getting - it's a wash as far as $$/mile driven. They may get more mpg, but that's where the bragging rights end. Mine is cheaper to drive those same miles.

If you want diesel, get diesel. If you demand low-end torque out the ass, get the diesel. But mine will be cheaper to operate all that time.
If I want fast, a Jeep is a stupid choice. Get a car.
I have a car for when I want to kick butt and beat almost anyone around.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

My 21 diesel on 37s towing a Tentrax outran my buddy's 2020 gas on 35s on a 7% grade, but I bet he beats me n a flat land drag race.

I'd take my wife's Wrangler 4xe against a JT with the 3.6 or the 3.0
Just don't tell her......... that thing kicks butt and when it hits a hill, it doesn't even downshift most of the time.

Yeah, I bet your diesel on 37s did whomp 'em in that case - torque matters on tall tires.

 

[CrazyCooter]

I'd take my wife's Wrangler 4xe against a JT with the 3.6 or the 3.0
Just don't tell her......... that thing kicks butt and when it hits a hill, it doesn't even downshift most of the time.

Yeah, I bet your diesel on 37s did whomp 'em in that case - torque matters on tall tires.

I'd kill for a 4XE EcoDiesel!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I'd kill for a 4XE EcoDiesel!

The heck with hemi, eh?
Think of the killer torque, not to mention the range of such a vehicle.

 

[Hootbro]

Gas or Diesel, either one is fine but they both have the potential to disappoint you in their own ways when and if they do fail you.

Warranty terms are more about marketing strategy and over coming perceptions of reliability/risk to make the sale easier. I would not weigh a longer warranty as necessarily a better thing in the decision process.

 

[MF Comics]

I'd kill for a 4XE EcoDiesel!

EV’s aren’t the future, Hybrid Turbo diesels are

 

[ShadowsPapa]

EV’s aren’t the future, Hybrid Turbo diesels are

Don't count on it............. not from the research I'm seeing.

 

[CrazyCooter]

EV’s aren’t the future, Hybrid Turbo diesels are

Not in our country? And definitely not in CA?

 

[NotSo Bright White]

I drive both and I really liked the diesel! I bought one and now love the diesel. I hate that there is a recall with no idea when and if the repair will be any better than what is in it. Or when they can expect to get the parts to perform the recall. But then I go for a drive and all is well. I think I would pedal it like Fred Flintsone it makes me so happy!

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Not in our country? And definitely not in CA?

Or the EU after 2035

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