Report: 2024 Gladiator Reveal @ NAIAS in Sept | Production Begins November | Gladiator 4xe PHEV Replacing Diesel

[harleyroyh43]

For those that may have missed it, Mopar Insiders says that the unveiling of the 2024 Gladiator should be in September, and will likely go into production in November. A Gladiator 4xe IS expected to replace the diesel.

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If they do that before adding a V8 to the lineup I’m done with jeep !!!

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[Oilburner]

Technology advances exponentially. If you think 2043 will look anything like 2023, your head is in the sand. Back in 2003, sending a photo over text was the new crazy technology, and you would have been using your dial up modem to view this site (very slowly). ?

Well I am still using a land-line just like in the stone ages, I guess in some places technology moves at a more glacial pace

PS: I'll believe a 2.0L 4xe Gladiator when I see one.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

Well I am still using a land-line just like in the stone ages, I guess in some places technology moves at a more glacial pace

Are you talking DSL? Because if you are still using dial-up, that is impressive lol

 

[Oilburner]

Are you talking DSL? Because if you are still using dial-up, that is impressive lol

No I mean using a physical telephone hard line for internet connection- It's the only option in my area.

 

[Deleted member 57233]

No I mean using a physical telephone hard line for internet connection- It's the only option in my area.

DSL is over a physical telephone hard line. Dial up is when your computer has to call a phone number every time you want to connect to the internet, and you have to wait for the connection. Since DSL and dial up use the same telephone line, its super rare to have someone choosing to use dial up still.

 

[P.Lo]

Thank God I live in North Carolina and Texas!!!!!

 

[bleda2002]

I think your “Electric Utopia” dream will fall flat. Just my opinion. From my understanding battery technology is almost as advanced as physics will allow.

Not even close, there are tons of new battery techs being developed concurrently. Perhaps current tech is reached its pinnacle, but the idea that we cant make better batteries isnt true.

Just to name a few future battery techs:
Solid State Batteries, air aluminum batteries, lithium air batteries, next-gen lithium-ions, oxygen-ion ceramic batteries

Each of these solvers problems in different ways, from higher energy density to longer life, to faster charging speeds, its a question of which one fits the application the best.

 

[MntWild**]

Not even close, there are tons of new battery techs being developed concurrently. Perhaps current tech is reached its pinnacle, but the idea that we cant make better batteries isnt true.

Just to name a few future battery techs:
Solid State Batteries, air aluminum batteries, lithium air batteries, next-gen lithium-ions, oxygen-ion ceramic batteries

Each of these solvers problems in different ways, from higher energy density to longer life, to faster charging speeds, its a question of which one fits the application the best.

Yes it is sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[bleda2002]

Yes it is sorry to burst your bubble.

So all those techs I mentioned don't exist got it lol. Would love to see the "article" you read that says we can't make any new battery tech according to physics

 

[MntWild**]

So all those techs I mentioned don't exist got it lol. Would love to see the "article" you read that says we can't make any new battery tech according to physics

I never said that we can’t make new batteries. I said we are coming to the end of any real advances in lithium Ion battery technology. Solid state is still far off and still uses lithium, manganese, aluminum. Same elements as batteries now. All happens with tinkering with cathode or anodes, but still the same chemical processes.

 

[bleda2002]

I never said that we can’t make new batteries. I said we are coming to the end of any real advances in lithium Ion battery technology. Solid state is still far off and still uses lithium, manganese, aluminum. Same elements as batteries now. All happens with tinkering with cathode or anodes, but still the same chemical processes.

That's a completely different statement than your original which said batteries have reached their limit according to physics. Current battery technology is indeed extremely efficient, they have greater than 95% efficiency already.

The future lies in new techs as mentioned though which solve different issues such as better energy density, faster charging rates, lighter batteries, cheaper materials, longer life span. All batteries (of any type) use the same chemical reaction of a cathode donating to the anode, but the precise chemistry, buffer materials, and composition make a huge difference even if the base is all the same.

 

[Terminus33]

I think your “Electric Utopia” dream will fall flat. Just my opinion. From my understanding battery technology is almost as advanced as physics will allow.

Not even close, there are tons of new battery techs being developed concurrently. Perhaps current tech is reached its pinnacle, but the idea that we cant make better batteries isnt true.

Just to name a few future battery techs:
Solid State Batteries, air aluminum batteries, lithium air batteries, next-gen lithium-ions, oxygen-ion ceramic batteries

Each of these solvers problems in different ways, from higher energy density to longer life, to faster charging speeds, its a question of which one fits the application the best.

The main problem is charging the batteries. Not so much using them. But some smart folks might be able to shoot the power to banks anywhere in the world for us to use to power homes and anything else. Including charging an electric vehicle almost anywhere.

POWER BEAMING

Still new but seems like a very nice way to get power to many places once the tech has matured.

 

[The Duck of Earl]

Seems to me that the 4xE Gladiator will likely be rolled out with the same system that is already in the Wrangler, for the primary reason of having it in the portfolio for dealer stock in the CARB states. Stellantis execs themselves said the 2.0t 4XE was not up to snuff for Gladiator truck duties a short while back, and I doubt a new grill will change that. This will be a compliance vehicle that will be fine for running about town on commutes and groceries, but would not expect it to maintain the mid-size truck class leading/matching towing capacities or payload (not that this is any different than how the manual transmission carries compromise in that regard). So the pentastar v6 will stick around to keep the top rated capabilities and those who want more utility will have to wait for the gen 2 4xE drivetrains to trickle down, likely with the next gen wrangler/gladiator and not the incoming refresh.

 

[Thumbszilla]

Seems to me that the 4xE Gladiator will likely be rolled out with the same system that is already in the Wrangler, for the primary reason of having it in the portfolio for dealer stock in the CARB states. Stellantis execs themselves said the 2.0t 4XE was not up to snuff for Gladiator truck duties a short while back, and I doubt a new grill will change that. This will be a compliance vehicle that will be fine for running about town on commutes and groceries, but would not expect it to maintain the mid-size truck class leading/matching towing capacities or payload (not that this is any different than how the manual transmission carries compromise in that regard). So the pentastar v6 will stick around to keep the top rated capabilities and those who want more utility will have to wait for the gen 2 4xE drivetrains to trickle down, likely with the next gen wrangler/gladiator and not the incoming refresh.

I really have no idea how anyone can arrive at that conclusion when the 4xe powertrain is years old at this point, and has MUCH more horesepower, torque, and efficiency than anything the Gladiator currently has. If people want to stick with the older ICE's, enjoy them For me personally, I'll go with the stronger / faster / more efficient offering as soon as it's available.

 

[Gvsukids]

That was my take on the 4XE - Jack of all trades master of none.

Like the Gladiator.

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