¡Help! I’m in the CA Bay Area and every pump contains over 20% Biomass

[here4theD]

Anyone know where I can get some B20 in Santa Clara/San Jose area?

Last 3 pumps I checked are labeled as containing 95% BioMass..more than 20%

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[Main Line Willys]

My understanding is you can run the biomass diesel.

However, I would like confirmation from a Jeep engineer before I would put that stuff in my ED

 

[CreepyJeepy]

So they do not on the new pump, but it will run fine.

just use the full tank before 30 days, and use some biocide occasionally, also I’d add LX4.

Change your oil and filter at no more than 5k miles.

 

[Tuna]

Same issue down here in Southern California. All pumps are slowly changing to biodiesel (B20) or renewable diesel (R99). Luckily I found a couple Mobile pumps that are still ol' petrol Diesel #2. I had to drive and find them, I couldn't find info on an app or online to determine what type of diesel each station has. Good luck.

 

[NCJL]

All the 76 stations and 7-Elevens had R99 in the Bay Area when I lived there a few years back. Everything I’ve read on it says it’s better than #2. Way higher Cetane and it’s all fresh. Others on the forum have had great success with it.
Would not do the B20.

 

[here4theD]

I’m finally learning the difference between BioDiesel and Renewable Diesel.

this guy explains some of the labeling confusion. All of these pumps I visited yesterday weren’t labeled R95 or R99. They all had a B20 sticker on the button to turn the pump on after payment.

Now that we’ve got the confusion of what is actually being dispensed at all of these stations sorted out, I’d like to understand why there’s no reference to renewable diesel in the owners manual

If I search the word “renewable” there’s only 1 result and it is used in reference to the 5 to 20 percent of biodiesel’s renewable component. There’s no reference to approved use of renewable diesel, R95 or R99. Anyone know what’s up with that?

 

[@californiajeeping]

I’ve been using r99 76 renewable almost exclusively since new I’m not at 37k miles 0 issues. Fuel filters look clean and no metal in anything. Use it.

 

[ParatusExpeditions]

Same situation as you. I usually go to 76 and mixed LX4 and EDT 1:1 at 4oz per fill up.

R99 and B20 refer to two different types of fuel blends, primarily distinguished by the amount and type of renewable or biodiesel content:

B20 is a blend of biodiesel and conventional petroleum diesel. B20 consists of 20% biodiesel and 80% petroleum diesel.

R99: 99% renewable diesel. Renewable diesel is made from similar raw materials as biodiesel (like vegetable oils, animal fats, or greases), but it's produced through a different process such as hydrotreating, which chemically alters the fats or oils into hydrocarbons similar to petroleum diesel. R99 is nearly pure renewable diesel, offering a cleaner-burning, high-quality diesel fuel.

The key differences lie in their production processes, chemical composition, and performance characteristics:

B20 is produced through transesterification, you can do it in your backyard if you’d wanted to, while R99 involves more complex refining processes like hydrotreating. This makes renewable diesel chemically similar to conventional diesel and suitable for use in all proportions in existing diesel engines. Even after the pump recall.

 

[Iowafarm]

Bio deisel is a great fuel, with a way shorter self life. If fresh and you do not let it sit you will be fine. It does like to let stuff grow in it if left sitting. Farmers around hear moved away from it for that reason. We have our high fuel use times and then, the fuel can sit for months until we start using it again. Some guys had a problem with algie growing on the walls of the tank. If you use it from high volume stations you will be fine.

 

[Sweetums]

Same issue down here in Southern California. All pumps are slowly changing to biodiesel (B20) or renewable diesel (R99). Luckily I found a couple Mobile pumps that are still ol' petrol Diesel #2. I had to drive and find them, I couldn't find info on an app or online to determine what type of diesel each station has. Good luck.

I would gladly run biodiesel if I was a allowed basic things like an oil catch can and getting rid of engine-murdering EGR.

 

[Rusty PW]

Bio deisel is a great fuel, with a way shorter self life. If fresh and you do not let it sit you will be fine. It does like to let stuff grow in it if left sitting. Farmers around hear moved away from it for that reason. We have our high fuel use times and then, the fuel can sit for months until we start using it again. Some guys had a problem with algie growing on the walls of the tank. If you use it from high volume stations you will be fine.

Diesel RV's have the same problem. Run them for a while. Then let them sit for months. Never heard much of algae growing inside a fuel tank until I got a diesel motor home.

 

[TheSolarWizard]

the first time I switched to R99 as a habitual practice ive made every effort to use it exclusively. The Jeep has a little more seat of the pants power and its quieter off idle. I still add 2oz hot shots EDT to every tank and an ounce to the 5 gallons I keep onboard in reserve and rotate every 3-4 fill ups

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