Need ideas on how to disconnect the two SGW connectors

[ShadowsPapa]

It was unfettered access to the vehicle through the OBD port that allowed the hacking to take place. That part of the story is usually left out. That is why we now have the SGW to deal with. The dealer tools are designed to work through it, everyone else has to work around it.

The "OTA" stuff has to start with some physical access in most cases, but anything that has contact to the outside world needs to be firewalled from the rest.
The very first "hacks" were done only because someone had physical access to plant a device on the bus.
These bits about steering and brake application you see on TV shows - it's not really that simple. They also show how you can insert a thumb drive and download all of the documents on a computer in a matter of 60 seconds. What a hoot. So people assume - I saw it on TV so it must be possible and that easy. I laughed when I saw an episode of NCIS years ago where a Navy computer expert remotely hacked into a car's systems and caused an accident. Yeah, right.

Now we have true outside access - so we have "SGW" which is a firewall. Call it whatever you want, it's a firewall.
It's filtering traffic to and from the OBD port, radio and so on.
It's the same reason we have a router with firewall capabilities in our homes.

Without that SGW/firewall, someone can plug a BT adapter onto the OBD port and use a phone or tablet and connect from quite a distance and trigger things - or shut things down.

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[RHRT]

I used a long handled bent needle nose plier to get those §!#& connectors to disconnect. Still drew blood but got the extension harness installed. Not fun but done!

 

[Idlethunder]

My hands are too big to get far enough behind the dash to reach the plugs but I had a ball point pen handy and it was just long enough to get the tapered end to push the tabs. I was bleeding before it was over but don't remmber it taking longer than 15 minutes.

 

[PuddleJumper]

I was able to do this in my JLUR, and did it 3 times before installing the Z automotive extension cable. I want to use my Tazer in my new 2023 JTR, but I can't get those *!#! SGW cables to even wiggle. I've tried some of the tricks on the JL forum posts, like the screwdriver pushing on the tab. i've read all Rhinebeck's posts. I hesitate to do what is most often suggested, that is to hold the tab in and pull straight down on the wires. The last thing I want to do is pull one of those wires out of the connector. I swear they put mine in with loctite.

No, I don't have teenagers around with tiny hands. I can get a hand in there, but can't hold the tab in and pull anything at the same time.

Pro tips and for the many who have done this successfully, please let me know how you did it. I spent an hour and a half yesterday and two hours today with no success. Thanks.

EDIT: Found this thread. I will see if it works. Tazer JL - an easy way to get the stock connectors unplugged | Jeep Gladiator (JT) News, Forum, Community - JeepGladiatorForum.com

my 23' was glued in. i had to disassemble the dash and heat gun it for 10 min.

 

[RK Racing]

I used my fingers, nice and slow and steady with my son, holding the flashlight with me yelling at him to hold the flashlight in the right position. Some of my friends use these.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I used my fingers, nice and slow and steady with my son, holding the flashlight with me yelling at him to hold the flashlight in the right position. Some of my friends use these.

If you had really nice friends, you'd be using them, too............

 

[MaximusTX]

On my 23 I put one hand behind the bar and used was able to reach the tab with a single finger to depress it and then used my other hand to pull them out. I had more of an issue putting in the Zautomotive Extension Cables then pulling the cables out.

 

[abe57]

I had the same problem many cuss words and about 45 min. I finally got it . I did get the extension cable and installed it so as not to have this happen the next go around . Now that the Tazer has the Pin lock function I added a 2nd extention cable so I can hide the tazer in far reach places . And I also covered up the led with some black electrical tape so as it does not glow and give its self up .

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Now that the Tazer has the Pin lock function I added a 2nd extention cable so I can hide the tazer in far reach places .

That's being creative. Interesting idea. At least make 'em look around a bit. those extensions look factory.

 

[NULL POINTER]

my 23' was glued in. i had to disassemble the dash and heat gun it for 10 min.

I hope you are joking but after today's total lack of success and bloody mangled fingers I am almost of the belief you are not joking. My Wrangler JLUR was a PITA the first time I did it, but after about a half hour or so of some wiggling and jiggling for each connector, I got them off. Subsequent efforts on the Wrangler weren't too bad after the initial effort and eventually I put the Z automotive extension cable on to end the contortions whenever I wanted to hook up the tazer or the ECRI.

I can't get these SGW connectors to wiggle even a little bit. I tried to push them in farther, then push the tab and pull. No go. Tried squeezing the connector with the tab pushed but I really couldn't get any leverage to squeeze and pull. Tried a couple different picks this morning, no go. I tried with my long bent needle nose pliers, no go. I have that amazon tool @RK Racing posted, but I've given up for the day. My hand needs to heal and I'm in no hurry right now.

It would not surprise me Jeep started gluing these in. for liability purposes and also to frustrate DIYers and 3rd Party shops. Mine is an August 2023 build. If you are serious, how did you figure out yours was glued in and the dash needed to come apart? What was your build date? I see a few 2023's in the thread where people got theirs off. I'm ready to pay someone to do this job.

 

[jn2275]

I must have gotten lucky as I was able to get mine disconnected pretty easily.

I used the index finger on one hand to depress the tab while also pushing up on the connector with my other hands index and middle finger at the same time, to make sure the tab was fully unlocked. Then I pulled down and they both came right out on the first try. This technique seems to work good for me with these type of connectors on the JT, or I just have a grip of steel with my index fingers.

I also installed my extension cables the same time as the Mopar trailer brake controller. I unbolted the drivers seat and moved it as far back as possible to lay down flatter on the floorboard and not have to twist my back. This may have helped as well.

 

[PuddleJumper]

I hope you are joking but after today's total lack of success and bloody mangled fingers I am almost of the belief you are not joking. My Wrangler JLUR was a PITA the first time I did it, but after about a half hour or so of some wiggling and jiggling for each connector, I got them off. Subsequent efforts on the Wrangler weren't too bad after the initial effort and eventually I put the Z automotive extension cable on to end the contortions whenever I wanted to hook up the tazer or the ECRI.

I can't get these SGW connectors to wiggle even a little bit. I tried to push them in farther, then push the tab and pull. No go. Tried squeezing the connector with the tab pushed but I really couldn't get any leverage to squeeze and pull. Tried a couple different picks this morning, no go. I tried with my long bent needle nose pliers, no go. I have that amazon tool @RK Racing posted, but I've given up for the day. My hand needs to heal and I'm in no hurry right now.

It would not surprise me Jeep started gluing these in. for liability purposes and also to frustrate DIYers and 3rd Party shops. Mine is an August 2023 build. If you are serious, how did you figure out yours was glued in and the dash needed to come apart? What was your build date? I see a few 2023's in the thread where people got theirs off. I'm ready to pay someone to do this job.

your gonna find this funny (not really). mine is an AUG 23' build as well. Mine was obvious tho, It had glue very similar to what i see in server cards at work. its a semi clear putty looking stuff. you heat it up and it becomes malleable. I pulled off my knee cover panel, the footwell trim, and the seat to get it the first time. even after i got the glue of i got a really long precision flathead to depress the tab while i yanked down with my other hand. It was a process to say the least.

 

[Gizmo]

I used an assortment of items to try to depress the tabs . I think my biggest helper was knowing other people did it so I can too no matter what my hand size . Some times waking away and try again tomorrow helps

 

[Great Offender]

I have 2 separate threads on here about this because during a rage I couldn't find the first to continue bellyaching. I still haven't done it but I haven't tried again either. As suggested to me, I think a long thin set of needle nose pliers might help. Jewelry pliers. https://www.amazon.com/Jewelry-Pliers/s?k=Jewelry+Pliers

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I have 2 separate threads on here about this because during a rage I couldn't find the first to continue bellyaching. I still haven't done it but I haven't tried again either. As suggested to me, I think a long thin set of needle nose pliers might help. Jewelry pliers. https://www.amazon.com/Jewelry-Pliers/s?k=Jewelry+Pliers

Sorry for laughing but seeing total honesty and none of the:
gee, it was easy for me,
will make many other Jeep people feel a lot better.

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