Max Tow Package Availability? Now a Max Payload thread

[DTDHI]

Still not available on building a Sport S, using the Jeep website, as of this moment.

Your dealer should still be able to place the order for one currently though. The option would be gray and uncheckable or not shown at all if it was not available to be ordered.

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[NateKY]

Your dealer should still be able to place the order for one currently though. The option would be gray and uncheckable or not shown at all if it was not available to be ordered.

They just tried it again at the dealer here in town. At the moment, they can only order max tow on the Sport and not the Sport S. When they add the 24s or whatever it is, it takes away the max tow.

 

[DTDHI]

They just tried it again at the dealer here in town. At the moment, they can only order max tow on the Sport and not the Sport S. When they add the 24s or whatever it is, it takes away the max tow.

When you go through the order process you start with the model so you would start by picking either 24B or 24S for the sport trim level. After that you go into the Configuration tab where you can add additional options like the Max Tow pkg onto it. The image i posted is the order process for a 24B or a 24S and Max Tow is available on both models at least where I live at.

 

[JT-S-Maxi-IND]

Still not available on building a Sport S, using the Jeep website, as of this moment.

I just tried the build site and it works but only after you select the 8 speed automatic transmission which is down a screen or two. Then you can go back and select the max tow. The build tool should just automatically update the package selections like it does for some of the other options (like the dual top forcing a tonneau cover).

 

[PyrPatriot]

I just tried the build site and it works but only after you select the 8 speed automatic transmission which is down a screen or two. Then you can go back and select the max tow. The build tool should just automatically update the package selections like it does for some of the other options (like the dual top forcing a tonneau cover).

Yep, looks like it's back on there!

 

[futzin']

The build tool seems to work best if you work it from the bottom up . . .

 

[PyrPatriot]

I've seen the 150 lb driver allowance mentioned several times here on the forum over the past several months and I could swear I've seen it in some sort of official Jeep documentation somewhere, but I can't seem to find it now. It's entirely possible I'm mistaken on that front.

Ok, I found the 150lb allowance! It's on Jeep's website. Go to the Gladiator, scroll down to where you can look at the different packages, "Make the Gladiator Your Own" section, and choose the Max Tow Package. Where it says "Gross Vehicle Weight Rating( Disclosure17)—6,250 Pounds" you hit the 17 and it pops up saying "Assumes properly equipped vehicle and 150 lb allowance for driver. Additional options, equipment, passengers, and cargo must be subtracted" Will email Jeep on clarifying, because if that's the case then my max payload is (6250+150)-4672 (curb weight given to me by Jeep) = 1728lbs. However, the Tire and Loading Information on the door frame says Max Payload of 1544lbs

I may actually go to a weigh station and weigh my jeep as it is (nothing has been added yet). Because we're talking almost 200lbs of payload difference. Emailing Jeep today

 

[Gobi Wan K]

Ok, I found the 150lb allowance! It's on Jeep's website. Go to the Gladiator, scroll down to where you can look at the different packages, "Make the Gladiator Your Own" section, and choose the Max Tow Package. Where it says "Gross Vehicle Weight Rating( Disclosure17)—6,250 Pounds" you hit the 17 and it pops up saying "Assumes properly equipped vehicle and 150 lb allowance for driver. Additional options, equipment, passengers, and cargo must be subtracted" Will email Jeep on clarifying, because if that's the case then my max payload is (6250+150)-4672 (curb weight given to me by Jeep) = 1728lbs. However, the Tire and Loading Information on the door frame says Max Payload of 1544lbs

I may actually go to a weigh station and weigh my jeep as it is (nothing has been added yet). Because we're talking almost 200lbs of payload difference. Emailing Jeep today

I'm pretty sure what they are saying is that the figures they are posting assume a 150 pound driver. It isn't calculated in to the weight rating. It is a marketing thing, like the ever popular *when properly equipped below a picture of a model that isn't properly equipped.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

They all read it in the same place on the internet - so it must be true...

Not so - amazing that people say that's the case but can't point to the AUTHORITY that says it is - but I can point to an authority that says it isn't -

For one thing it would totally throw people off because how many drivers weigh 150? Few - most will be more. 180 isn't uncommon so if it's assumed that 150 is included then people have to do more math....
The only thing the company knows is the weight of the truck and that's all that is ever figured. I can go to my Chevy book and look if folks want - but it's always been taught to me, and found in books, and authoritative articles, vehicle PLUS people, etc. and the driver is assumed to be a people
Nope it's vehicle PLUS any people, including driver, luggage/gear, Yogi's picnic basket, fire extinguisher, sunglasses, whatever.
You will typically find images just like what I posted - but I would love to see the links to the AUTHORITY, not members commenting, or "I read it on the internet", but an authoritative post or out of some owner manual.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Ok, I found the 150lb allowance! It's on Jeep's website. Go to the Gladiator, scroll down to where you can look at the different packages, "Make the Gladiator Your Own" section, and choose the Max Tow Package. Where it says "Gross Vehicle Weight Rating( Disclosure17)—6,250 Pounds" you hit the 17 and it pops up saying "Assumes properly equipped vehicle and 150 lb allowance for driver. Additional options, equipment, passengers, and cargo must be subtracted" Will email Jeep on clarifying, because if that's the case then my max payload is (6250+150)-4672 (curb weight given to me by Jeep) = 1728lbs. However, the Tire and Loading Information on the door frame says Max Payload of 1544lbs

I may actually go to a weigh station and weigh my jeep as it is (nothing has been added yet). Because we're talking almost 200lbs of payload difference. Emailing Jeep today

I bet that's the only place you'll find it and it's really goofy as no other TOWING site, trailer site, etc. figures that. It's normally shown vehicle PLUS people - they have no clue how much a driver weighs and to assume 150 is assuming a teenager these days.
That's a build your own site - I don't take that as authoritative.

 

[PyrPatriot]

I bet that's the only place you'll find it and it's really goofy as no other TOWING site, trailer site, etc. figures that. It's normally shown vehicle PLUS people - they have no clue how much a driver weighs and to assume 150 is assuming a teenager these days.
That's a build your own site - I don't take that as authoritative.

Which is why I emailed Jeep. If it is a marketing thing, they need to fix it. But, if they actually put a lower GVWR by 150lbs on the vehicle itself to offset risk/liability but still be able to market a greater payload, then I want to know.

 

[Murgatroid]

Which is why I emailed Jeep. If it is a marketing thing, they need to fix it. But, if they actually put a lower GVWR by 150lbs on the vehicle itself to offset risk/liability but still be able to market a greater payload, then I want to know.

The 150 is some factory add on you ordered, it took away from the GVWR.

 

[PyrPatriot]

The 150 is some factory add on you ordered, it took away from the GVWR.

I didnt order anything. I bought mine as it was found on the lot.

 

[WXman]

I have read elsewhere that the axles for the max tow and Rubicon are not exactly the same. The thing I heard is that the carriers are different. I suspect this is just like the steel bumper disappearing and is a supply issue. Being this is about the biggest feather in the specs cap for Jeep I don't think it is going away.

Of course the carriers are different. The Rubicon gets Tru-Lok lockers front and rear, Sport doesn't.

As far as the discussion about what is and isn't included in the GVWR figures, all of that is explained in the owners manual. No need to scour the internet for it.

 

[Gobi Wan K]

Of course the carriers are different. The Rubicon gets Tru-Lok lockers front and rear, Sport doesn't.

As far as the discussion about what is and isn't included in the GVWR figures, all of that is explained in the owners manual. No need to scour the internet for it.

From what I read it went beyond that. To the point that the axle shafts were a different length because of the carriers. Of course I don't have any solid info to back this up. I will have to see if the max tow and Rubicon shafts have a different part number.

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