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Stupid question here - Its friday, and Ive already begun drinkng - Does anyone know how to check this? I have a 2021 model and was told by the dealership that it was not effected by the steering box shenanigans and have been operating under the assumption that it had the newer version installed.

If any of you have photos of a part number label / location something along those lines so I can check I would appreciate it. Be curious to see what Ive been working with.

My steering is generally pretty good, although I do have a pull to the right - Im pretty used to it, and I have a ton of stupid modifications - lift kit, track bar, steering stabilizer, etc so I just assumed that was my fault.
the steel box is black the aluminum is well, alumunum kinda grey
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Stupid question here - Its friday, and Ive already begun drinkng - Does anyone know how to check this? I have a 2021 model and was told by the dealership that it was not effected by the steering box shenanigans and have been operating under the assumption that it had the newer version installed.

If any of you have photos of a part number label / location something along those lines so I can check I would appreciate it. Be curious to see what Ive been working with.

My steering is generally pretty good, although I do have a pull to the right - Im pretty used to it, and I have a ton of stupid modifications - lift kit, track bar, steering stabilizer, etc so I just assumed that was my fault.
As mentioned, black is the iron one, silver is the older aluminum.
And yea, 2021s were effected so they lied to you on that one.
 

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This is the replacement - the part number may end in AA instead of AB if it's an earlier replacement.
And as said - original 2020 would be aluminum gray/silver, replacement is black.

Jeep Gladiator who is on original oem aluminum steering box? 20210506_123436_2
 

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2020 JTR, still OEM steering box. 0 issues.
 

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Mine wasn't driving bad when I had it replaced but I figured why it's under warranty I'd get it replaced. Had it done at around 18,000 miles. Didn't notice to much of a difference, maybe a little tighter steering. I could drive mine with one figure as well before the swap, and I can still drive it with one figure after.
 

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I was on mine until i traded in. I had zero problems. But most people never drove a vehicle with 33-37” tires before
And so they were perplexed by steering feel. I know they revised the part and all but my aluminum box felt way better than all of my jk’s and also my WJ. Droopy solid axle builds with a track bar with marshmallow bushings steer with a lot of “forgiveness” lets say. But when you put 17x37’s on it aired down to 32psi. Its going to have some slop in the inputs and that only gets worse as you go faster.
 

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Original box with 37s and a bunch of time off-road. Haven’t broke it yet! I figure if I blow it up, it’s an excuse to do hydro steer. That logic works right?
 

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But most people never drove a vehicle with 33-37” tires before And so they were perplexed by steering feel.
BULLSHIT.
That has zero to do with it.

Many people who I worked with had stock Sport and Overland - those are hardly 33-37" tires. Overland tires are 32.2" tires. Mine was one of those with loose steering that tended to wander and that was with stock tires.

In a sense you are suggesting that Jeep owners who went out and got a Gladiator that drove worse than their prior Jeeps with 33" tires didn't know what they were doing.
And you are discounting those who had it replaced and saw a huge difference.

It's not tire sizes or the owners - they had a problem. When you can turn the steering wheel and the front wheels don't respond - it's not about tire size.
Some had issues, others did not. It's really all about that. It's not the driver/user to blame.
Even my service writer said "Gladiators should not drive that way" and the tech took mine out and said "we need to replace your steering gear" (I let them decide if it was a problem or not)

Plain and simple - some had problems, some did not. I'd say most did not but enough did have legit issues they resolved it.

"I don't have problems so it must be the other drivers" - that's how it sounds.
 

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BULLSHIT.
That has zero to do with it.

Many people who I worked with had stock Sport and Overland - those are hardly 33-37" tires. Overland tires are 32.2" tires. Mine was one of those with loose steering that tended to wander and that was with stock tires.

In a sense you are suggesting that Jeep owners who went out and got a Gladiator that drove worse than their prior Jeeps with 33" tires didn't know what they were doing.
And you are discounting those who had it replaced and saw a huge difference.

It's not tire sizes or the owners - they had a problem. When you can turn the steering wheel and the front wheels don't respond - it's not about tire size.
Some had issues, others did not. It's really all about that. It's not the driver/user to blame.
Even my service writer said "Gladiators should not drive that way" and the tech took mine out and said "we need to replace your steering gear" (I let them decide if it was a problem or not)

Plain and simple - some had problems, some did not. I'd say most did not but enough did have legit issues they resolved it.

"I don't have problems so it must be the other drivers" - that's how it sounds.
BULLSHIT.
That has zero to do with it.

Many people who I worked with had stock Sport and Overland - those are hardly 33-37" tires. Overland tires are 32.2" tires. Mine was one of those with loose steering that tended to wander and that was with stock tires.

In a sense you are suggesting that Jeep owners who went out and got a Gladiator that drove worse than their prior Jeeps with 33" tires didn't know what they were doing.
And you are discounting those who had it replaced and saw a huge difference.

It's not tire sizes or the owners - they had a problem. When you can turn the steering wheel and the front wheels don't respond - it's not about tire size.
Some had issues, others did not. It's really all about that. It's not the driver/user to blame.
Even my service writer said "Gladiators should not drive that way" and the tech took mine out and said "we need to replace your steering gear" (I let them decide if it was a problem or not)

Plain and simple - some had problems, some did not. I'd say most did not but enough did have legit issues they resolved it.

"I don't have problems so it must be the other drivers" - that's how it sounds.
Your sources: “Trust me bro”
 

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BULLSHIT.
That has zero to do with it.

Many people who I worked with had stock Sport and Overland - those are hardly 33-37" tires. Overland tires are 32.2" tires. Mine was one of those with loose steering that tended to wander and that was with stock tires.

In a sense you are suggesting that Jeep owners who went out and got a Gladiator that drove worse than their prior Jeeps with 33" tires didn't know what they were doing.
And you are discounting those who had it replaced and saw a huge difference.

It's not tire sizes or the owners - they had a problem. When you can turn the steering wheel and the front wheels don't respond - it's not about tire size.
Some had issues, others did not. It's really all about that. It's not the driver/user to blame.
Even my service writer said "Gladiators should not drive that way" and the tech took mine out and said "we need to replace your steering gear" (I let them decide if it was a problem or not)

Plain and simple - some had problems, some did not. I'd say most did not but enough did have legit issues they resolved it.

"I don't have problems so it must be the other drivers" - that's how it sounds.
And let’s not forget, Jeep did issue a TSB, which they aren’t doing unless something really is wrong!!
Your sources: “Trust me bro”
His sources: more years wrenching on vehicles than most of the forum members have been alive.
In other words, he knows his stuff.
 

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2 years and 19,000 miles on my 2020 JTR with AL steering box with no issues. Maybe a little loose, but nothing compared to my sons 2dr JK with 325-60/18s. That thing was all over the place, especially if the road had depressed tracks...but that was due to the wide flat tires.
 
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Same here 2020 JT sport 18 month, 10k miles running 33" no problems yet.
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