To trade or not, what would you do.........

[FLGladiator]

I've considered selling mine a few times. Three things have stop me, one is the extra money I'll pay for the same Jeep in 2022 compared to what I paid for mine. I was out the door at $37,100 on my 2020, I would be around $43000 to $44000 now. Two I really don't want to start over on another build, I like how mine rides and looks and the fact that's it's been pretty much problem free. I have considered purchasing an extended warranty which would give me some piece of mind if anything would happen. Mines out of warranty now with 47,500 miles on it. Three would be no Gator color and I'm a fan of the color.

It's been tempting though. I was offered $40,000 cash offer for mine 4 weeks ago when I was having my oil changed at Hendricks. Gerrywoods and Randy Marion both told me they would match that price without even seeing it and Gerrywoods told me Friday when they called that they may can do better if they see it. Like I said it's tempting but the starting over on basically the same truck seems pointless to me. If they offered a Hemi or even the Inline 6 in one, then I may would be more interested in doing it and probably would consider a different color and wouldn't mind it as much.

I personally think the 47k miles would make me jump a bit sooner, especially at these offer prices. I do understand the fact that its problem free which has been one of my considerations in keeping it.

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[Jeeperjamie]

I personally think the 47k miles would make me jump a bit sooner, especially at these offer prices. I do understand the fact that its problem free which has been one of my considerations in keeping it.

I get it but you can't find any Gator color ones and they aren't offering the color anymore so I couldn't get one brand new if I wanted to. I could purchase a extended warranty for $2200 and that would cover me for another 60,000 miles with no deductible. Then i would have to go through the trouble of building one again and the price of everything has went up since I built mine 2yrs ago and the dealership wants mine as is, with everything on it. I've saw a few listed like mine locally for $45,000 up to $50,000 with the lift ,bumpers and 37's on them already. A couple with almost 50,000 miles

 

[FLGladiator]

I get it but you can't find any Gator color ones and they aren't offering the color anymore so I couldn't get one brand new if I wanted to. I could purchase a extended warranty for $2200 and that would cover me for another 60,000 miles with no deductible. Then i would have to go through the trouble of building one again and the price of everything has went up since I built mine 2yrs ago and the dealership wants mine as is, with everything on it. I've saw a few listed like mine locally for $45,000 up to $50,000 with the lift ,bumpers and 37's on them already. A couple with almost 50,000 miles

Yeah if I keep mine, I will pay Tom Winkels and get an extended warranty as well. Def piece of mind with these lately. The mods and color makes sense. For me, its the 2 years newer, a couple options that I wanted which normally I wouldn't consider but at these trade prices super tempting.

 

[fun2drum]

The problem here, and I think it's the reason Jeeps in general hold so much of their value, is that we invest time and money to get these vehicles exactly like we want them. Everything from the wheels, bed covers, running boards or side steps, bumpers, and discontinued color are unique to our individual trucks. We can't go out and find a new one that could replace it without a lot of additional cost and effort, regardless of the deal.

I've got a Gator (discontinued color) that's my favorite vehicle ever, and it's got a seven year unlimited miles Mopar warranty. My wife absolutely loves it too, exactly the way it is. There's no way I'm trading at this point in time.

These values are amazing though. If I thought I could replace mine with another Gator at zero miles with no additional cost then I would be more tempted.

 

[Gvsukids]

and if yes, how would you handle the things I've changed or installed.........
Trick question, no right or wrong answers, I guess.
It started when I was discussing with my wife about how the market on used vehicles has been, and that's been supported by emails and phone calls - dealers trying to buy our vehicles.
My wife said - well, maybe you could start over with 0 miles and full warranty.
So I started kicking tires.
As posted in another thread, I hit carvana, carmax and driveway. Prices ranged from 37,500 to 44,190
Trade range was a tad higher.
Top private sale I looked up was something up to 49,000. I think middle was 47,000 or similar.
NADA is 44,600 for clean trade.

I originally got a number of 40,500 from a local dealer, one calling me saying we want to buy your truck. I chuckled and walked out.
I've gotten called twice since then, and today the same place, this time a sales manager said "what if I gave you 44,000, would you be interested?"
I said - if you can match some numbers I've gotten from another dealer, we might talk. (the other dealer isn't interested in trading but gave a really good price on selling me one)
Mine is a 2020 built November 2019. 25,600 miles (soon to be 25,700 miles)

So my wife and I were talking, if I could get the numbers close enough where I would be needing to come up with roughly $12,000 - maybe it would be worth it. Maybe.

But the complications come in with all of the changes I've made. Many things can be easily removed - redline tuning hood struts, tailgate ladder, yellow fog lights, Oracle backup lights, etc. - I can take off.
But I have the five newer General A/Tx tires with matching 5th rim for spare, front steel bumper, winch, Rubicon front springs, max tow rear springs, Daystar 3/4" spacers, fox shocks, MOPAR brake controller, dead pedal, cargo rails, MOPAR lower control arms (lift kit LCAs) and other odds and ends. Probably between 2 and 3 grand of stuff (cheap by most of YOUR standard LOL!) Winches have gone up since I bought this one so I'd likely remove it for sure.
Some stuff could be swapped back, some could be removed, but the other stuff would be harder to do and time consuming.

It might be an easier decision but the mods and swaps make it harder, especially the 5 matching wheels and tires and spring swap. I did all the work myself, luckily.

First - am I being logical on the price spread for the miles and such,
secondly, geesh, what about all of the mods.............

Thinking of finally getting a Max Tow? ?
12k is a lot to put into a new vehicle of you only have 26000 miles. Just drive yours more and use the 12k for fuel and vehicle goodies.

 

[Willpower1]

For me it would be too much of a PITA. There’s also no guarantee that one would get a truck that’s as reliable as the one you have. I thought about it myself because I’ve put 19k miles on mine in a year (love driving this thing), and because the value is still so high. But, the MSRP has gone up 4K in the last year for my exact same truck according to the configurator, and they’re not dealing nearly as well off MSRP now, so I’m staying with mine. I love this thing. Went to the auto fair in Charlotte yesterday and people kept asking if it was for sale haha. Nope!

 

[869 KPH]

Eh, I'd wait for a real generational change before dropping that much money. I'm talking an interior/exterior refresh and/or the new engine. That'd be the only way to even tempt me to thinking about trading up. But maybe that's also just because I think my JT is perfect as-is, lol. Maybe a little vertically challenged for now, but perfect.

 

[Trout Safari]

Half the fun is building a new Jeep. With the JT it is even worse since they are still new (compared to other models) and new things are coming out for them in the aftermarket department everyday! We only live once go for it!

 

[WILDHOBO]

The reverse mod discussion had been had, and you’re smart enough to know that already. The one thing I’d say is if you decide to trade up for a newer one, find the right dealer and trade it instead of selling it to carvana or private party first. At least in CO, you only pay sales tax on the net when you trade, so only tax on that 12k you mentioned. When we did trades last year I waited until we had super high trade prices negotiated, and refused any markup past msrp. We did pretty well that way I think. Granted, we weren’t removing mods on the trades. My JT is modded enough now that I’m keeping it. I want to hit the trails with it someday when the young punks look at me and laugh because it’s so old.

 

[Orange01z28]

At this point I’d want a JLUR XR so many of my mods wouldn’t even be reusable

If I made any money I’d lose it in mods

 

[Akgladiator]

take off your mods and trade it for a price you will not be upside down. Enjoy a newer vehicle with new warranty. Perhaps a new vehicle with features that you did not have in older vehicle.
Always trade up not down!

 

[MOPAR Boy]

and if yes, how would you handle the things I've changed or installed.........
Trick question, no right or wrong answers, I guess.
It started when I was discussing with my wife about how the market on used vehicles has been, and that's been supported by emails and phone calls - dealers trying to buy our vehicles.
My wife said - well, maybe you could start over with 0 miles and full warranty.
So I started kicking tires.
As posted in another thread, I hit carvana, carmax and driveway. Prices ranged from 37,500 to 44,190
Trade range was a tad higher.
Top private sale I looked up was something up to 49,000. I think middle was 47,000 or similar.
NADA is 44,600 for clean trade.

I originally got a number of 40,500 from a local dealer, one calling me saying we want to buy your truck. I chuckled and walked out.
I've gotten called twice since then, and today the same place, this time a sales manager said "what if I gave you 44,000, would you be interested?"
I said - if you can match some numbers I've gotten from another dealer, we might talk. (the other dealer isn't interested in trading but gave a really good price on selling me one)
Mine is a 2020 built November 2019. 25,600 miles (soon to be 25,700 miles)

So my wife and I were talking, if I could get the numbers close enough where I would be needing to come up with roughly $12,000 - maybe it would be worth it. Maybe.

But the complications come in with all of the changes I've made. Many things can be easily removed - redline tuning hood struts, tailgate ladder, yellow fog lights, Oracle backup lights, etc. - I can take off.
But I have the five newer General A/Tx tires with matching 5th rim for spare, front steel bumper, winch, Rubicon front springs, max tow rear springs, Daystar 3/4" spacers, fox shocks, MOPAR brake controller, dead pedal, cargo rails, MOPAR lower control arms (lift kit LCAs) and other odds and ends. Probably between 2 and 3 grand of stuff (cheap by most of YOUR standard LOL!) Winches have gone up since I bought this one so I'd likely remove it for sure.
Some stuff could be swapped back, some could be removed, but the other stuff would be harder to do and time consuming.

It might be an easier decision but the mods and swaps make it harder, especially the 5 matching wheels and tires and spring swap. I did all the work myself, luckily.

First - am I being logical on the price spread for the miles and such,
secondly, geesh, what about all of the mods.............

Typically, mods will decrease trade-in values. You may want to strip it down to pure factory stock before you trade it in, and see if you can get whatever nbr of cents on the dollar on Craigs List, etc. This is what I plan to do with my 2022 JTRD, as soon as I get the beautiful email from Tesla that my CT4 is ready for purchase! I have a super good reso nbr (paid my deposit like 1 minute after CT was announced), so I'm estimating this will be like about late 2024. Can't wait!

 

[Blade1668]

I'd have to be get to a stupid amount of money for mine to make me trade or sell my current JT. Though I could put it back to almost all stock. But I don't expect to have another new vehicle, payments, or expect to really have any problems with my Gobi Max-Tow. I've only got a few more payments on extended warranty 3 in fact then trying to get one configured as I want it too. "I bought extended warranty at the last miles left of bumper to bumper mileage". Thirdly it's almost the way I want it, and does what I need.
Now just want lockers and few skid plates
Jeep.... the adult Legos.

 

[JTBurns]

Really don't know if there is a wrong answer here. Am I tempted by the market? Absolutely, but I know I'd want to add 8-10k to what I paid for this one to get leather, a majove or Rubi, and a few other options, plus how base prices have gone up since I bought. I have an extended warranty and will be paid off in a year. Gonna look into adding lockers then. I think I'm keeping mine til at least 100k, and that'll be plenty of time to have a couple of model years with electrification or the inline 6 if it happens. Those will be worth the wait

 

[chorky]

Without reading any other responses here is my .02, because I sorta just went through something like this.

First I would say 50K sounds about right considering where the market has been for a private sale. You would always make more money on a private sale everyone knows that. The benefits of a trade-in is, depending on state, not paying taxes or getting those registration fees taken care of. But a dealer, of course, is always going to offer less because they are still in the business to sell it, so they need to make money and the only way they can do that is by offering you lower than what they would sell it as.

Ok so now that is out of the way - the accessories. So there are a LOT of people who disagree with me on this. In fact I probably will get some hate by saying this. But I absolutely 100% believe that a person CAN and SHOULD get their money back for accessories unless you take them off. Maybe not all 100% of it, but most certainly some portion that you deem appropriate. Here's why. I recently sold my OBS 7.3. Sold it for WAY more than what they were being purchased at 5 years ago, and even more than what most others were being purchased at today. But the family that got it got a killer truck that honestly can do far more than my Rubicon. The only price comparable trucks were basically 'brand new' at 25 years old with under 50K miles on them, and spotless factory paint. But here's the deal, I had 50K into my truck. Between an engine rebuild, suspension, trans, lockers, etc...all sorts of work it cost me a ton. Now yeah yeah yeah folks will say "you Never get back what you put into it". Well to them I say this - "go ahead and find a truck that is stock, and in better shape than mine (mine was in premium condition with literally ZERO rust compared to it's peers other than 'show' trucks) and then build that truck to the same as what I was selling mine as". Well considering covid times you would probably spend over 70K now that prices have skyrocketed and good luck even finding a truck in the first place. So here's the thing. Somebody is already getting a 'built' vehicle. Those who dont like those particular accessories will pass and move on, but for somebody those accessories, already being on the vehicle, will be worth the price because the legwork of research, and time to install is already done. It's like a dealer that sells a lifted jeep for 10K over MSRP because they factor in the cost of parts, plus labor of install, and a markup. You would never get back the FULL amount. Overall, I still totally lost money on my truck. But to the people who said "you should sell it for under 8K" are not only idiots but also full of shit and just trying to take advantage of you because you know darn well they would flip it. And yes this is sorta a pet pieve of mine because there is a huge discrepancy between what market is and actual value. Look at houses - perfect example, trailer homes that are falling apart selling for 300K. Insane. For the average vehicle, depreciation sucks, but for 'classics' or speciality vehicles (like my old truck), then they dont really depreciate that bad.

Now as for a new vehicle with new warranty. Maybe it's my age and lack of desire to deal with problems, but I absolutely 100% would trade yours in. Even if you lost some cash. Simply because you have been chasing the ESS/BMS thing for a while now and no doubt it is giving you grief and stress. That alone would be enough for me. However, we are in a stupid crazy market (not for much longer) where your monetary loss would be no where near as bad as pre crazy covid times. Over for me are the days of 'feeling' nervous about if a vehicle will start or run as designed. Problems will always happen, any engine/trans or whatever can always fail. But there's a difference between a failure and 'something isn't right but nobody can figure it out' kinda thing. I also would suggest the extended warranty. I did that for mine. Just my .02. But I do think you would be much less stressed with a new vehicle, new warranty, etc..... And you have a new clean slate to build on and maybe do things different. That is one thing I LOVE about this JT - its the first time in my life I've had a clean slate to work from so even going into a little debt to build it out as fast as possible and then enjoy it for the rest of time that I keep it.

Good luck with your decision, they're never easy to make.

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