3.6 Penstar Poll!

[Hootbro]

I have always wondered if the JL and JT would have benefited more keeping the GEN 1 Pentastar? Just seems more sorted past 2015-2016.

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[Stan H]

I have always wondered if the JL and JT would have benefited more keeping the GEN 1 Pentastar? Just seems more sorted past 2015-2016.

I had a 2015 JKU not one seconds problem

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I have always wondered if the JL and JT would have benefited more keeping the GEN 1 Pentastar? Just seems more sorted past 2015-2016.

Less HP and torque. Then there's them silly fine for cafe ........
Does anyone here want a v6 with lower HP or torque numbers? Raise your hand ....

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I had a 2015 JKU not one seconds problem

You didn't have follower roller issues? I thought everyone had failed cams in the jk

 

[Stan H]

You didn't have follower roller issues? I thought everyone had failed cams in the jk

Nope , 78,000 when I traded it in ran Amsoil and filters and never a minutes problem

 

[Stan H]

I did have a leaky door seal , transmission even shifted smooth as butter .

I told my wife we should have kept it .

 

[Hootbro]

Less HP and torque. Then there's them silly fine for cafe ........

Would it really? The Gen 1 in the Wrangler was mated to the 5 Speed NAG 1 transmission. Had it been mated the ZF 8 speed, probably would have been comparable. The same engine and transmission combo soldiered on in the RAM 1500 classic just fine.

Does anyone here want a v6 with lower HP or torque numbers? Raise your hand ....

This guy would if it meant better reliability.

 

[Mr Miami]

Nope , 78,000 when I traded it in ran Amsoil and filters and never a minutes problem

I bet you ran 5w30 in it and not the factory recommended 5w20. With the 5w20, it would have quit and been melted down for scrap by now.

(He, he, he ... this should get the party going).

 

[Stan H]

I bet you ran 5w30 in it and not the factory recommended 5w20. With the 5w20, it would have quit and been melted down for scrap by now.

(He, he, he ... this should get the party going).

Nope I ran exactly what was on the oil cap and in the manual. Sorry to disappoint.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

This guy would if it meant better reliability.

Well, yeah, I can see that......... but was it really, with the follower roller issues?
(I don't know, so it's a real question this time)

 

[cmashark]

They should’ve shifted the torque to the left even if it cost hp.

 

[Stan H]

They should’ve shifted the torque to the left even if it cost hp.

No disagree , the just need to do a redesign that will not incorporate a flat tapping style high lift. Would love to know if zddp would kill a 3.6

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Would love to know if zddp would kill a 3.6

Too much will kill any engine.
And - more only does one thing - it prolongs how long you can run the oil. It doesn't protect better, just longer, but then again - too much actually destroys iron/steel parts.

There's way too much talk of ZDDP - especially with modern oils and engines. Yes, it's good, yes it helps but only to a point.
Other chemistries have taken over since the year 2000

I've got a comp xtreme cam in my 4.0, had one in my 390 and never once bothered with adding zddp or looking for the oil with the most. I chose a well-balanced oil chemistry and that was that.

 

[Stan H]

No it just needs additional oiling capabilities specifically on the cams. Me myself I kick this thing down every single day multiple times I use every horse in that motor and generally cracking the whip whilst its galloping.

 

[Stan H]

Too much will kill any engine.
And - more only does one thing - it prolongs how long you can run the oil. It doesn't protect better, just longer, but then again - too much actually destroys iron/steel parts.

There's way too much talk of ZDDP - especially with modern oils and engines. Yes, it's good, yes it helps but only to a point.
Other chemistries have taken over since the year 2000

I've got a comp xtreme cam in my 4.0, had one in my 390 and never once bothered with adding zddp or looking for the oil with the most. I chose a well-balanced oil chemistry and that was that.

I used to add lead substitute additive to my gasoline tank in the 390. Ran valvoline oil.
It my V-Twin bike I use Amsoil V-Twin which has around 1500 ppm ( not sure the measurement designation) of zddp as it incorporates a flat tappet design and does a great job in it. Of course its 20W-50 oil.
I would be curious to know the additive package in the signature I use in this 3.6L.
That new technology is that the hybrid ash tech I was reading about ?
They say it offensive metal to metal contact without the use of zddp doing as good or better job especially in engines without flat tappets.

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