Bent Frame

[j.o.y.ride]

Maybe the tube in the section front under the passenger seating area is heavier than a wrangler....IDK. I can tell you most certainly that driving over smooth rollers I can hear the door/roof gaskets squeaking letting me know there IS flex happening in the center of the chassis. Some flex has to occur or it will break? The question is how many cycles before it bends or breaks?

I don't think you NEED it to flex, I think you just need to have the gap between the cab and bed in CASE it flexes.

And there's a difference between rotational twisting flex when say the front right tire is dropping while the rear left is lifting... and flex where you're bending it entirely up or down from a hard force like a bottom our too heavy a trailer (esp off road)

It's also entirely possible these guys hit a series of whoops way too fast and bent the frame first which caused the crash. Even if they think the crash caused the bend, it could have been difficult to tell in the moment what came first, the bent frame or the crash.

Anyhow it all comes down to they were going way too fast for their setup.

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[CrazyCooter]

I don't think you NEED it to flex, I think you just need to have the gap between the cab and bed in CASE it flexes.

And there's a difference between rotational twisting flex when say the front right tire is dropping while the rear left is lifting... and flex where you're bending it entirely up or down from a hard force like a bottom our too heavy a trailer (esp off road)

It's also entirely possible these guys hit a series of whoops way too fast and bent the frame first which caused the crash. Even if they think the crash caused the bend, it could have been difficult to tell in the moment what came first, the bent frame or the crash.

Anyhow it all comes down to they were going way too fast for their setup.

They absolutely exceeded the safe speed for the design! All other theories are negotiable....... I would just like to know so that I don't duplicate it!

 

[LCF]

What is the back story for your frame? Similar bend?

No…I was hit by someone who was high and ran a red light

 

[Renegade]

It also seems like they photoshopped that thumbnail to make it look way worse than it is. Don't get me wrong, that thing is totalled, but its not bent nearly to the same degree as the thumbnail.

So they’re fraudulent attention seekers. I hope Jeep sues them.

 

[dajudge]

Looks more like the bed broke then the frame bent. Bed is way off the frame in the front and smashed down on it in the back. Maybe both?

 

[Bjeepz]

Those dudes were doing Raptor speeds

You mean Colorada ZR2 speeds ?

 

[Bjeepz]

And the ZR2 and Raptor are both IFS. When you're running that fast with a solid front axle on uneven terrain if you hit something bad on one side the whole thing can get shifty. There's a limit to the speed you're wise to be running at with the Gladiator no matter the shocks that are on it. False sense of security.

My ZR2 was much better at high speeds then my current Mojave is. Actually felt better at all speeds. But I do still love the Mojave for what it is.

 

[AZCooWhip]

The Mojave is not a Raptor. The only real thing they have in common is that both have a pick up bed. Raptor is almost like driving a full size side by side.

Then again, we haven’t seen the flying Raptor video lately.

Do stupid shit and your stuff is going to break. Plain and simple.

 

[Rusty PW]

Colorado

Raptor

F250

 

[piroman683]

Definitely not bent frame. Hitting whoops and jumps does not cause it to bend backwards. Also I'd expect the shock bolts to shear off or seriously bend, but due to bump stops you'd most likely rip the bumpstop off like I have done.

I don't have a Mojave and have taken mine over 55 in smaller whoops, over 70 on a nice jump. The truck can take a lot. The video seems more like the bed broke off the frame.

 

[XJFanatic]

Looks like they got to put 4000lbs in the bed to even it out.

 

[ezekio3160]

Not exactly... it's still the same truck just better shock/spring setup and some extra welds which didn't help it seems. Better setup for the desert but it still isn't a desert truck.

Don’t say that you going to get Mojave drivers upset lol

 

[Renegade]

Definitely not bent frame. Hitting whoops and jumps does not cause it to bend backwards. Also I'd expect the shock bolts to shear off or seriously bend, but due to bump stops you'd most likely rip the bumpstop off like I have done.

I don't have a Mojave and have taken mine over 55 in smaller whoops, over 70 on a nice jump. The truck can take a lot. The video seems more like the bed broke off the frame.

Are you aware of the the other bent frame incidents that look identical to this one? It’s a thing, when overloaded and pushed beyond reasonable parameters.

 

[ezekio3160]

And the ZR2 and Raptor are both IFS. When you're running that fast with a solid front axle on uneven terrain if you hit something bad on one side the whole thing can get shifty. There's a limit to the speed you're wise to be running at with the Gladiator no matter the shocks that are on it. False sense of security.

Ummm ? sounds like Rubicon vs Mojave debate is settled LOL ?

 

[ezekio3160]

My ZR2 was much better at high speeds then my current Mojave is. Actually felt better at all speeds. But I do still love the Mojave for what it is.

That’s why Mojave doesn’t make sense to me with a soild front axel. Maybe Jeep will go IFS for Mojave in the future

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