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I drove 500 miles to get a 30% off MSRP. It's a Granite Crystal, Freedom, that in a Ram they would call "the night package and charge you 4K for "black accents."

The first 300 miles home I was going slow never engaging the cruise control, varying the RPM's constantly and under 65. Nothing happened. But once I hit 300, I said, OK, gonna try things out, went to like 77 mph (80 mph speed limit), put it on cruise, hit the transition point on a bridge and boom, there it is... slowed, down, at 58 mph, it goes away, and for the next two hundred miles, I identify exactly what triggers it from a driving/road stand point. Pretty much speed is critical. Under 65 mph, it doesn't happen. IF you are on the gas and stay on the gas and hit any irregularity in the road, like a repaired area, bridge transition areas, boom there it is... So, it's perfect. hit the start of a bride, big long ones over the Clark Fork River north of Missoula MT and get death wobble relatively violent...

So, Monday, I will be at my dealership and ask them to fix it. So, steering damper?, check. ALL the torque specs on every steering related fitting?, check. Camber?, Check, track bar? check, Ball joints? check., Understanding of the lemon law? check, Anything else to tell the service guys to to look at? This forum is great for helping in this kind of situation...

How do I get hold of those "Jeep Cares" people. I'd like to see if they really do, particularly since I called home and left a message for my wife saying if I died on the way home, it was Jeep Death Wobble... I figured some lawyer would check things out. That first one was extremely dangerous. If I had been on a bridge, with a semi next to me, it could have been a very bad outcome. I'm surprised Jeep doesn't key on this, or have a recall. This is a serious problem on a brand NEW Gladiator a few months out of production. I mean after all these years, you would think somebody would find this important.

I mean I read other similar posts to mine and they fix them with everything from new steering dampers, tightening track bars.

PS, in checking through the threads and posts, it appears that the "death wobble" is associated with mods almost always. Mine is a fresh off the dealer's lot, straight from the factory unit.
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What is your current tire pressure? They ship them from the factory over inflated on purpose at like 45 PSI and the dealerships many times fail to air them down to the door label 37 PSI spec. Even if you are at 37 PSI, I would experiment with 30-32 PSI for daily driving.
 

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" it will mask the real issue again." Oh goody...
If you have the means and another person to help, you can get someone to move the steering wheel through right and left cycles while you lie under the front end and look for loose components and play.

Ideally, however, I'd recommend making sure that every fastener is properly torqued.
It's a very common issue to find that they're not from the factory.

If I were to buy another Jeep it's the first thing I would do.

https://www.jeepgladiatorforum.com/forum/threads/?-2020-2023-jt-gladiator-torque-values-all-of-them-in-one-place.67915/

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First of all, it's not death wobble. DW, once it starts, will not stop until you come almost to a complete stop.

It's probably tire pressure or tire balance related. Those are speed sensitive. It won't hurt for them to go through and retorque all the suspension points.

I have had true death wobble in my JK. It's scary AF.
 

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Dumbasses. Time for someone to sell a Toyota.
Huh? What does this even mean?

Before your trip to the dealer.
1. Lower air pressure to 32psi in all four tires. Who cares if your TPMS comes on, you are trouble shooting.
2. Check torque value on lug nuts.
3. Put a wrench on the axle side nut of the Track Bar. They are notoriously loose from the factory. You don't need to torque it if it's loose, let the dealership do it.

Try to mimic the shack/shimmy on your way to dealership.
 

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Huh? What does this even mean?

Before your trip to the dealer.
1. Lower air pressure to 32psi in all four tires. Who cares if your TPMS comes on, you are trouble shooting.
2. Check torque value on lug nuts.
3. Put a wrench on the axle side nut of the Track Bar. They are notoriously loose from the factory. You don't need to torque it if it's loose, let the dealership do it.

Try to mimic the shack/shimmy on your way to dealership.
Sorry guys. My response was to a different post , somehow got attached to this posting.
 
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You guys are great. Thanks, I'm printing off this thread and handing it to them. I'm gonna give them the pic separately. I will first assess their knowledge of the situation. If the service guy goes, not again, and speaks directly to the issue as in knows what the heck is going on, I'll let them do it. But I will also be able to give the impression that I know what I'm talking about...
 

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Tire balance, alignment , specifically caster. Shocks, A dampener is just a bandaid.
 

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All great advice. If you check torque specs, take pics of the suspension before you disturb the factory paint lines on the bolts and nuts.
 
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All great advice. If you check torque specs, take pics of the suspension before you disturb the factory paint lines on the bolts and nuts.
You mean so I don't get the Oh, you looked at it wrong so its not covered by warranty line?
 

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" it will mask the real issue again." Oh goody...
This is frustrating because it’s a new vehicle… this is an issue with any and all solid axle front ends. Quite honestly going through all the nuts and bolts is a good practice to check things over for future off roading….

once all nuts and bolts are gone through- it’s rare (but so is your situation…) rotate the tires front to back….. just to see if it’s not a tire that’s being weird causing the issue.
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