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Jeep is selling vehicles for the masses, and sticker packages attract new buyers.

Please take uConnect out back and shoot it. Start over. Better. Something that works.
The older generation seems to work well.
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This is what happens when the American brand is run by a overseas company..... When I ordered my first truck (1976 F250 4X4) I could and did check a lot of boxes motor, trans, Ranger Interior, AC and even power steer and brakes, heavy duty axles (Front D60) Trailer mirrors and two tone paint.... the Bill came to a tab over $5000.00..... today it is over $80K and you get to pick packages not options... Parts coming from all over the world to build the American truck.... look under the hood of a Ram...."Assembled in Mexico." then there is our neighbors to the north Bunches of stuff coming from them plus a tax that has to be paid.
The logging industry in Maine send Logs to Canada to be processed into lumber only to be sent back to the USA for use..... of course we havce to pay the tax on it to improt our own lumber back in....
I could go on and on... Global industry wrecked the industry in this country all to chase a dollar face it we got greedy and now we are paying for that greed.
 

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How can i get this dial and needle tachometer in sport s trim going forward. I remember before it was something with tech package but researching in case i do get into something new next year. I really dislike the digital version because it is a potential failure and do go blank.

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You won't.

Jeep offering the 7" gauge cluster screen is just them trying to match the rest of the market.

I had to double check, but every mid size truck on the market except for the Frontier has 100% digital clusters, and even the Frontier had the equivalent of Jeeps 7" screen on all trim levels. So, one could argue that Jeep is still behind the ball on that. I like the appearance of the dial speedo and tachometer, even though I do not use the analog speedometer at all.

The government mandates certain messages and warnings to be visible to drivers these days, and a nicer screen makes that even easier / more obvious - and streamlines parts with the rest of the trim levels.

I looked at the Sport and Mojave on the website briefly and didn't see any deal breakers on configuring a vehicle. Minor annoyances, but nothing fussy. Just my take, though. It doesn't look like much will change in '27 to bother me.

Want to see some goofy stuff, go check out GMC.

Their base 4x4 Canyon - the Elevation trim, is not available with a 4L transfer case. Four high/2WD only. Same for the Colorado - no 4L in a Work Truck, the Custom, or the LT trim levels.

And then GM likes to do some weird shit like you can't have a pocket on the back of the driver seat until you are pretty far up the trim levels - which personally aggravates me cause I store a lot of stuff there 😄

So anyway. Outside of an engine with more power to put the Gladiator on a level playing field with most of the others, I don't see anything bothering me - but I see you guys point of view.
 

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This is what happens when the American brand is run by a overseas company..... When I ordered my first truck (1976 F250 4X4) I could and did check a lot of boxes motor, trans, Ranger Interior, AC and even power steer and brakes, heavy duty axles (Front D60) Trailer mirrors and two tone paint.... the Bill came to a tab over $5000.00..... today it is over $80K and you get to pick packages not options... Parts coming from all over the world to build the American truck.... look under the hood of a Ram...."Assembled in Mexico." then there is our neighbors to the north Bunches of stuff coming from them plus a tax that has to be paid.
The logging industry in Maine send Logs to Canada to be processed into lumber only to be sent back to the USA for use..... of course we havce to pay the tax on it to improt our own lumber back in....
I could go on and on... Global industry wrecked the industry in this country all to chase a dollar face it we got greedy and now we are paying for that greed.
Adjusted for inflation alone that $5k in 1976 is 30k now. A base f250 4x4 starts at $42k and is 10x the truck that a loaded '76 could hope to be from power to towing capacity to brakes to comfort. Sure you might not care about safety, but ABS and a bunch of airbags add significant cost. Nobody wants to admit it, but this is the pinnacle of vehicle value right now once you adjust for inflation and all the things that are light years better. Even the v6 in a nearly 6k pound JT is as quick as a 5.0 fox body from the 90s. Even if you went for the top of the line 390 V8 in that 1976, it was 12.0s 0-60, slow as molasses. Just 85 more hp in a truck that weighs near the same and it's 5s faster to 60.
 
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This has been on mine mind about longevity of the JT. The electronics is 4G based. They did away with 3G because it wasn't supported anymore. What happens when 4G isn't supported anymore. Will my radio, nav, and offroad pages still work?
I tend to look at the bright side of things. When the 4G towers die, your trucks telematics module won't be able to send a constant stream of data back to the mothership anymore.

GPS should still work and it can be updated over USB, radio should still work but may not get OTA updates anymore, and the Offroad pages MAY still work depending if they get data from cellular or from the XM antenna like the Sirius XM weather does.
 

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This is what happens when the American brand is run by a overseas company..... When I ordered my first truck (1976 F250 4X4) I could and did check a lot of boxes motor, trans, Ranger Interior, AC and even power steer and brakes, heavy duty axles (Front D60) Trailer mirrors and two tone paint.... the Bill came to a tab over $5000.00..... today it is over $80K and you get to pick packages not options... Parts coming from all over the world to build the American truck.... look under the hood of a Ram...."Assembled in Mexico." then there is our neighbors to the north Bunches of stuff coming from them plus a tax that has to be paid.
The logging industry in Maine send Logs to Canada to be processed into lumber only to be sent back to the USA for use..... of course we havce to pay the tax on it to improt our own lumber back in....
I could go on and on... Global industry wrecked the industry in this country all to chase a dollar face it we got greedy and now we are paying for that greed.
Very true, all of it. But that's all OUR, the consumers, fault. We all want our paychecks to be very high, constantly demand raises, but we want to pay very low for things. We can't have it both ways. If we had a 100% Made in the USA vehicle, made only by Americans, well, to cover their high paychecks alone would make the vehicle cost skyrocket. So parts get sectioned out to those areas that do not have medical, dental, vision, sick days, 401k's, pensions, many weeks of paid vacation, routine steady pay increases, continued pay if you're off injured, continuing training classes, etc.. It goes to some poor soul wearing flip-flops that knows nothing of OSHA or an 8 hour shift or overtime. And he does if for a daily pay that is less than half of our hourly wage.

So we can pay less.

Our personal greed forced this on us. We always want MORE, but want to dole out LESS. Not sustainable.
 

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At the risk f being political..... between the government trying to make minimum wage a living wage and inflation driving the cost of everything thru the roof this is where we are. the rich get richer... the rest become subservient to a government that doesn't represent its people....
 

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My friends daughters boyfriend was complaining on how he can't survive on minimum wage. I said, "Minimum wage was never intended as a wage to survive on." He goes, "Maybe so, but many do !!" I said, "Well, do better and work harder at work and get that raise.".

He didn't like that. He wants it NOW.
 

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Here's the problem, info from Google.

Millionaires

1970: 120,000 to 130,000 millionaires in the United States

2025: 23.6 million millionaires

Now don't get me wrong I have no problem with millionaires or people acquiring wealth at all it's just that with 23.6 million millionaires the car companies lost site of producing "fun" vehicles for the masses. They can just produce whatever they want for the masses and the really fun stuff is over $100k because they have a market of 23.6 million people to sell to now. Then add in all the regulation that the big car companies actually love because it makes low volume reasonably priced vehicles impossible to make and this is where we end up. The few start up companies went EV because of government regulations. This doesn't even factor in the consolidation of car manufacturers and the killing of brands within a company.

This is happening in all markets, look at the average cost for a family of four to go to Disney World, $6000-12000 for 6 nights. In 1980, the average total cost for a family of four to do a six-night vacation at Disney World was approximately $750 to $900 (equivalent to about $3,000–$3,500 today). Disney no longer needs to set prices so the average income family can afford it with the number of well above average income families now.
 

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I get the messages here and I agree with many of them. But it's like when my wife looks at me and wants to book another Disney cruise - with what money am I supposed to do this with??

FCA execs drove the prices up to extract as much profit as they could prior to selling to Stellantis. In 2025, Stellantis lost $26.3 billion because they completely fumbled the EV market.

Jeep is using smoke and mirrors decals because, well, it has to. No mula. Lucky us!

(Edit: and to be fair, many manufacturers have completely bungled the post-COVID / EV market. For every successful Toyota, there's a broke Nissan and Jaguar.)
 

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Here's the problem, info from Google.

Millionaires

1970: 120,000 to 130,000 millionaires in the United States

2025: 23.6 million millionaires

Now don't get me wrong I have no problem with millionaires or people acquiring wealth at all it's just that with 23.6 million millionaires the car companies lost site of producing "fun" vehicles for the masses. They can just produce whatever they want for the masses and the really fun stuff is over $100k because they have a market of 23.6 million people to sell to now. Then add in all the regulation that the big car companies actually love because it makes low volume reasonably priced vehicles impossible to make and this is where we end up. The few start up companies went EV because of government regulations. This doesn't even factor in the consolidation of car manufacturers and the killing of brands within a company.

This is happening in all markets, look at the average cost for a family of four to go to Disney World, $6000-12000 for 6 nights. In 1980, the average total cost for a family of four to do a six-night vacation at Disney World was approximately $750 to $900 (equivalent to about $3,000–$3,500 today). Disney no longer needs to set prices so the average income family can afford it with the number of well above average income families now.
Millionaires don't make a million dollars a year, and the vast majority are just working class people in these ultra expensive housing markets. You save and struggle to buy a $400-500k house and by the time is paid off it's worth $1.2 million. Rents are so high in these areas that you're still saving money paying a $4k mortgage. A high percentage of teachers are now millionaires despite everyone crying about their low wages. I think most of the $80-100k vehicle purchases are just people over buying on 8+ year car loans.
 

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Dropped the base model? I'm still seeing the sport model on their site. Am I missing something?
 

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Dropped the base model? I'm still seeing the sport model on their site. Am I missing something?
The regular Sport. The line up will start at Sport S I believe.

The website is not yet current with this released presentation.

Edit: Mixed up my threads. The presentation I am speaking of is in the other thread about the 2027 Gladiators...
 

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The regular Sport. The line up will start at Sport S I believe.

The website is not yet current with this released presentation.
Where did they announce this? I cant find any info that says they're getting rid of the sport model?
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