EcoDeisel, Should I?

[Stan H]

Buying the eco diesel yes gives you more torque ,but replacemnt parts and any other part is more expensive. You said you wanted to do the trans American. I chose other . Why ? Stay with the Gasser . It is the most versatile fuel more readily available, parts easier to aquire. Imagine being on the transamerican and the fuel pump going out on that diesel. You might as well sell it for junk right there cause you will be screwed. I know that's a wild example but your asking for trouble in that respect. The Gas Rubicon will be more reliable and allow for more piece of mind. Heck you could even just buy a few parts to have with you and still be okay and when I say Gasser I mean 3.6L

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[Vtur]

Diesel if you're mechanically inclined and performs maintenance on your own rigs.

 

[aFatBird]

Diesel if you're mechanically inclined and performs maintenance on your own rigs.

I feel like with either option you should do your own maintenance since, so for for me, all the cdjr dealerships near me seem lacking in ability to do anything right.

 

[Vtur]

I feel like with either option you should do your own maintenance since, so for for me, all the cdjr dealerships near me seem lacking in ability to do anything right.

I agree especially with a Jeep, but the 3.6 is more forgiving for the incompetent techs.

 

[ZeeJay]

So I have a 22' Rubicon and a 23' Mojave. Love em both. My end goal with the Mojave is to eventually get it 392 swapped. I'm not gonna do anything with the Rubicon because its basically my family/Aunt's winter/tow truck. I got a blazin deal on it and it will stay stock for reliability sake. I on the other hand am crunching numbers and deciding if i really wanna drop 40k on a hemi swap. I love my Mojave it rides amazing, but it doesn't ride as good as a stock rubicon anymore. Having a stock truck to go back to, really points out where you have "ruined" your truck. I wanted a truck that could be 90% stock, run 37s and be a do it all rig. And originally the Mojave was (currently still is) the route there. Its got the deisel frame, and other little goodies that make ideal for a V8 swap. But i was looking as diesel sports and overlands. 40k for a lightly used deisel gladiator, delete and tune that bad boy. get some fox elites under it and would I have a equivalent to my endgame Mojave for half the price? I love V8s, i want it so badly. But would it be smarter and quicker to step back and change platform? I want whatever truck i get to last, like a really long time. I want to get a decade worth of offroad trips and memories out of it. Cus there is another thing nagging at me. My range is leaky dog shit rn and the path I'm on won't get it any better. V8 and 37s on a 20gal tank. I'd get what? 180 miles a tank offroad? Not very nomadic if you ask me. Deisel I feel can get a lot more out of 20 gals even with big tires. I want something that will go the entire TransAmerican Highway. My heart says hemi, my brain say I should start lookin elsewhere. I could get 10k out of selling my Mojave and put 20 towards a eco. or I could throw 40 at a v8 swap. the swap costing as much as an entire vehicle is whats rubbin me wrong. Can i do it? yeah. Is it smart? not really.

Well as you may know I am not for professional reasons a diesel fanboy at all and I could list a grip of reasons why that is a shit idea all together but…….that logic is solid man. Power for power relatively close but from a fuel mileage and useable torque curve not close at all. Considering your endgame with truck I would as the resident diesel nay sayer( it’s my profession so I can be)support you. I vote Italian squeeze bang engine

 

[dmwphoto]

NOPE!!

 

[PuddleJumper]

I initially owned a 2020 Mojave, sold it, and now have a 2022 SportS EcoD on 33's. I miss the Mojave suspension, but the diesel more than makes up for it in my opinion.

Currently at 43k Miles on the diesel, never used hot shots or any fuel additives, and change my oil when the dash tells me (10K miles). Everyone has their own opinion on additives and oil change time frames, but if you keep in line with the owners manual the "increased cost" of maintenance is negligible. The fuel filter is every other oil change (20K Miles) unless you're using biodiesel, in that case you need to change it more often.

Oil changes are twice as expensive, (ok, maybe more than twice as expensive) but you do them half as often.

Took mine up Imogene in Colorado 2 summers ago. Got 30MPG on the way there, and idled up the side of the mountain with ease. I don't regret the decision to switch over at all.

Buying the eco diesel yes gives you more torque ,but replacemnt parts and any other part is more expensive. You said you wanted to do the trans American. I chose other . Why ? Stay with the Gasser . It is the most versatile fuel more readily available, parts easier to aquire. Imagine being on the transamerican and the fuel pump going out on that diesel. You might as well sell it for junk right there cause you will be screwed. I know that's a wild example but your asking for trouble in that respect. The Gas Rubicon will be more reliable and allow for more piece of mind. Heck you could even just buy a few parts to have with you and still be okay and when I say Gasser I mean 3.6L

didn’t think about that. Good point

 

[PuddleJumper]

Diesel if you're mechanically inclined and performs maintenance on your own rigs.

I always do my own work.

 

[Sweetums]

I have a 21 Ecosiesel and I love it, but if you want a good ride, this isn't the place. Jeep screwed the pooch on the diesel suspension by making it the same as the gas, but with less upward front end travel. I hit the bump stops on everything until I lifted and put in heavier springs. It's embarrassing to have a Rubicon and hit the bump stops on the speed bump at Trader Joe's.

That being said, I love the torque and power delivery of the 3.0 and if I could do it again, I absolutely would.

 

[aFatBird]

I have a 21 Ecosiesel and I love it, but if you want a good ride, this isn't the place. Jeep screwed the pooch on the diesel suspension by making it the same as the gas, but with less upward front end travel. I hit the bump stops on everything until I lifted and put in heavier springs. It's embarrassing to have a Rubicon and hit the bump stops on the speed bump at Trader Joe's.

That being said, I love the torque and power delivery of the 3.0 and if I could do it again, I absolutely would.

That was a weird choice that they went with. That's how I ended up smashing the rubber/foam jounce into the plastic shell.

 

[Rusty PW]

whats the diesel oil change interval? I will delete immediately as well. I'd have the kit before i got the truck. Any other maintenance thats extensive that a gasser wouldn't have?

You have to have the truck before you order the delete kit. You have to clone the oem ecu and send the clone in to have the tune installed. Unless you want to skip the cloning and send in your oem ecu. Then you take a chance of things going sideways. And then you have no backup.

I have a Franken 4" lift with 37's on my JTRD. No regear. I'm still getting over 20 mpg around town. I've done black trails with it. I'm loving it. Oil changes are $108.93 for me. Oil filter is $54.95, oil is $26.99 per 1 gallon jug. Need 2. I do my oil changes between 5K and 6K. Fuel filter every 10K

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[biodiesel]

I have a 21 Ecosiesel and I love it, but if you want a good ride, this isn't the place. Jeep screwed the pooch on the diesel suspension by making it the same as the gas, but with less upward front end travel.

I don't have that issue on my 2023 EcoDiesel. I'm guessing Jeep made some improvements by model year 2023?

 

[Sweetums]

I hope so, but between the cruddy OE Fox shocks crapping the bed and the soft springs, we had all the reason we needed to get a 2.5 Meatalcloak Game changer installed last week.

I will take a good power train on a crap suspension, it's easier to fix than a crap power train on a great chassis setup.

 

[Bjeepz]

Coming from a Diesel Colorado ZR2 this is a tough one! I obviously love the go faster suspension we have on our Mojave’s, but I sure do miss the torque of the Diesel and the fuel economy. I feel like a deleted tuned Diesel gladiator with aftermarket go fast suspension would be an amazing rig.
That said you could simply upgrade the beat up Mojave suspension (was getting there with my last one, things weren’t feeling as tight) to something extra awesome, add a front locker and keep wheeling it!!

 

[Camaroboi13]

22 Overland diesel owner. 4.5” lift on 37s, stock gearing. No need to change gears. My overall average is 22.9 mpg currently, and I get right around 400 miles on a tank of fuel. 38k miles on the clock. I’ve done fuel filter twice, use Doc’s filters. I’ve never drained the water from the filter, there isn’t any in my bucket when I change the filter. I’ve had 4 oil changes, first 3 were free at the dealer. Last one cost me 96 bucks to do myself. I don’t use fuel additives, I just don’t care. Flame away, it’s my truck my rules. I will not buy another Jeep unless it has a diesel or a 5.7 Hemi. Not interested in 3.6 or 392.

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