Ecodiesel power derating as temps rise?

[pmpmstrb]

Curious as to your reasoning for wanting to restrict the system to 1/2” line?

The cooler cores are all the same and have a -10 ORB. Depending on which one you order determines which -10ORB to AN (8,10,12) adapter they include in the box. I'm not 100% set on using 1/2" line but will probably be the route I go. 1/2" would be as small as I would want to go. If I want to go bigger I just need the appropriate fitting at the cooler to convert it. And like californiajeeping said we have no idea how much flow we are going to get out of those ports anyway. I believe samfamaz used 3/8" line looking at his pictures. This is all uncharted territory for all of us. I'll run 1/2" and you can ran larger and we can compare notes.

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[pmpmstrb]

I am curious if the plugs on the filter housing are full flow or a "bypass" setup. Does all oil flow through these? It cant because then with them in nothing would flow.

Adding a cooler into a open loop will only allow enough oil to flow through the cooler when pressure is high enough that the flow differential is lower to the cooler....correct?

If I ever get my oil filter housing we would know, but it appears to be on backorder.

 

[mrmo]

I am curious if the plugs on the filter housing are full flow or a "bypass" setup. Does all oil flow through these? It cant because then with them in nothing would flow.

Adding a cooler into a open loop will only allow enough oil to flow through the cooler when pressure is high enough that the flow differential is lower to the cooler....correct?

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

The cooler cores are all the same and have a -10 ORB. Depending on which one you order determines which -10ORB to AN (8,10,12) adapter they include in the box. I'm not 100% set on using 1/2" line but will probably be the route I go. 1/2" would be as small as I would want to go. If I want to go bigger I just need the appropriate fitting at the cooler to convert it. And like californiajeeping said we have no idea how much flow we are going to get out of those ports anyway. I believe samfamaz used 3/8" line looking at his pictures. This is all uncharted territory for all of us. I'll run 1/2" and you can ran larger and we can compare notes.

So…. By using smaller fittings 8an you are reducing the orfice size and restricting flow…. Therefore causing increase in force to push through the system.

as noted in another post…. It hasn’t been confirmed if these ports are full flow or bypass…… but regardless.

well- you do you…. Personally I am going to go with the largest fitting I can put in these ports. I ordered an 10’s and plan to order an 12’s when I can find them in this size to ensure maximum flow with as little restriction as possible. Still not super stoked about the in and out being a 90* bend ??‍ Guess I’ll watch the pressure before and after and see what changes.

 

[mrmo]

Im wanting to jump in on this myself, using the two plugs at the bottom of the oil filter adapter to a cooler with a fan(s). I notice at times when cruising on the interstate that the oil pressure is fairly low on these engines, like I have seen between 30-36psi at 70mph. You think this would be any kind of issue with the cooler loop added in? Im wondering if the loop would cause a pressure drop throughout the engine.

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

I have posted this before:

http://www.setrabusa.com/products/fanpacks/fp160m22i/index.html

60 rows only 8.27" tall with 3 500+ CFM fans.....

Can you post up someplace selling this with the fan kit??? I’m guessing the price is close to 1-1200?
Just the cooler- no shroud and no fan setup is $600

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

Im wanting to jump in on this myself, using the two plugs at the bottom of the oil filter adapter to a cooler with a fan(s). I notice at times when cruising on the interstate that the oil pressure is fairly low on these engines, like I have seen between 30-36psi at 70mph. You think this would be any kind of issue with the cooler loop added in? Im wondering if the loop would cause a pressure drop throughout the engine.

This is why I just posted my comments… trying to build this with the least restrictions as possible.

 

[rharr]

rule of thumb for oil pressure x2 the rpm. 2000 rpm=40 psi, not exact but gives your idea of what to look for.

 

[pmpmstrb]

So…. By using smaller fittings 8an you are reducing the orfice size and restricting flow…. Therefore causing increase in force to push through the system.

as noted in another post…. It hasn’t been confirmed if these ports are full flow or bypass…… but regardless.

well- you do you…. Personally I am going to go with the largest fitting I can put in these ports. I ordered an 10’s and plan to order an 12’s when I can find them in this size to ensure maximum flow with as little restriction as possible. Still not super stoked about the in and out being a 90* bend ??‍ Guess I’ll watch the pressure before and after and see what changes.

All I'm saying is that there may be no difference between 1/2" and 1" or it could be drastic, we won't know. So let's install it how we each plan to and see what the results are.

 

[@californiajeeping]

Im wanting to jump in on this myself, using the two plugs at the bottom of the oil filter adapter to a cooler with a fan(s). I notice at times when cruising on the interstate that the oil pressure is fairly low on these engines, like I have seen between 30-36psi at 70mph. You think this would be any kind of issue with the cooler loop added in? Im wondering if the loop would cause a pressure drop throughout the engine.

The gauge on your dash is not a true oil pressure gauge ive been told it is emulated based on PID's.

 

[Escape.idiocracy]

The gauge on your dash is not a true oil pressure gauge ive been told it is emulated based on PID's.

I have heard that a lot of gauges are this way now.
Kinda curious as to how/what contributors play into the algorithm used for oil life/change.

I would think
Rpm
Pressure
Temp
Run time

would be the basics (likely more factors playing in- but I think you get where I am going)

the JK- coolant temp Guage acted the same “normal” zone until it was way hot…. Lol

 

[Samfamaz]

I have heard that a lot of gauges are this way now.
Kinda curious as to how/what contributors play into the algorithm used for oil life/change.

I would think
Rpm
Pressure
Temp
Run time

would be the basics (likely more factors playing in- but I think you get where I am going)

the JK- coolant temp Guage acted the same “normal” zone until it was way hot…. Lol

Even in my old ZJ the dash gauge didn't read what true pressure was. I put an analog guage under the hood after I learned that lesson the hard way. Mechanics told me that most vehicles are like that because they don't want panicked customers flooding the service lines every time the pressure dips to almost nothing.

 

[Samfamaz]

All I'm saying is that there may be no difference between 1/2" and 1" or it could be drastic, we won't know. So let's install it how we each plan to and see what the results are.

I used 1/2 hose and fittings. I couldn't imagine running 1" line. I would need another 5 quarts of oil just to fill the hoses ?

 

[CrazyCooter]

I would think 1/2" would be the ticket? That's -8AN though?

 

[Samfamaz]

I would think 1/2" would be the ticket? That's -8AN though?

Yeah, I used 8. I didn't like the fittings that came with the cooler.

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