ShadowsPapa
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- Bill
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So? You are trying to compare a WRANGLER to a pickup? A very limited market - a market where most - and I mean MOST - buy because it's a truck, and can be a daily driver.Your comments and naysaying completely ignore that Jeep already offers this option on the wrangler. 4.56 on the auto with XR and 4.88 on the manual as a standalone option.
A little taller gear even with just the stock tire size would be perfectly driveable as is, and for many would provide a worthwhile trade off of little bit more jump in its step off the line and dealing with hills, etc. for maybe just a minimal highway mileage penalty. Obviously once someone puts 34/35ā tires the benefits are pretty self evident.
To me, offering a check the box 4.56 option on the auto in the gladiator makes a lot of sense (hell, many would love the full blown XR package, but one can dream of just the gear upgrade as a consolation). Thinking for the rubi/mojave and max tow crowd, where if you bump up in tire size just to 34/35s (as not a small number of owners actually do) the stock 4.10s are a little bit tall, but it is tough to justify the aftermarket expense and hassle just to jump up to 4.56.
You are totally ignoring the fact that the markets for each are different, and that even dealers have told me most people buy these and never modify them beyond some accessories.
Wrangler vs. Gladiator? Really? Look at the sales numbers- Wrangler can do it, it's sold in larger numbers to a greater world market. Wranglers are everywhere - Korea, Israel, the EU and many other places. Gladiator - not so much.
Some max tow people who jump tire sizes to extremes and regear have this weird belief that they don't lose towing numbers or payload numbers, so they are going in with blinders and ear plugs. Their problem.
I'm not ignoring anything - I'm thinking beyond my own nose and my own world, to the greater world market, sales numbers and my knowledge of marketing and manufacturing. You are thinking only by comparing what you think should happen- based on a different product and market. A much more narrow view.
I've been in this and been around a while.
(and to the 4.10 being a little tall for 35s? Check the forums - a lot of people here have done that and have no complaints)
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