Has anyone noticed their gladiator burning oil

[ShadowsPapa]

This is what Mr_Bill refers to - 10,000 for ideal conditions, and NO MORE, 4,000 for severe use like off-road, in dust, etc. I typically go 5,000 or so, depends on my driving, the temperatures, and other factors. I have no set miles, but do it based on conditions.

Marketing, manuals, etc. typically say "can go as far as 10,000 miles" or words to that effect. Mobil1 says 10,000 if you use their oil and filter.

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[Vincent]

Mine will look low if I check it right after I park it. If I let it sit for abt 10 minutes then check it, it reads normal “full”. Try that maybe?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Mine will look low if I check it right after I park it. If I let it sit for abt 10 minutes then check it, it reads normal “full”. Try that maybe?

Yup. I usually let mine sit at least 20-30 minutes as I'm used to some of my V8s that will still be draining oil back out of the heads and valley area for several minutes. It's amazing how much oil some engines can hold up in the top end.

 

[jay21mojave]

I changed my oil 4,000 miles ago and I checked it today and I was over a quart low.

IMO .a qt in 4000 miles that is not excessive. get with the dealer service dept and request an oil consumption test..

 

[CrazyCooter]

Go ahead and check it out if you don't believe me. Consumer reports, cars dot com and the owners manuals in my collection of car and Jeep owner manuals over the years - many of them state the same thing. Even BMW today says the same.

I disagree when applied to MODERN vehicles, but it made total sense with old piston and ring designs, and other differences.
Today, IMO, it would be absolutely totally unacceptable to go through a quart of oil in 3,000 miles.

@CrazyCooter - check this out -

For references, mine received exactly 5 quarts of oil about 4 weeks ago so it's got a few hundred miles on it - look where the oil is on the stick with FIVE (5) quarts of oil, not 5.5 quarts, not 5.3 quarts, 5.0 quarts - I even aimed the end down-hill so oil wouldn't run up higher on the stick, you can tell by the drip forming on the end to the right.

I wasn't arguing with you, only stating my findings on this particular vehicle. He bought it new, so no shady service history....Maybe he got a dipstick that is 1/4-3/8" too long?

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I wasn't arguing with you, only stating my findings on this particular vehicle. He bought it new, so no shady service history....Maybe he got a dipstick that is 1/4-3/8" too long?

naw, didn't figure you were - and my thought was exactly that - maybe some variation in "dip cables" since they aren't really a stick any more haha

I have heard others comment on some variation. And that's weird if that's the case. These days of machine assembly there shouldn't be even 0.1" variation in the lengths.

 

[Vincent]

I wasn't arguing with you, only stating my findings on this particular vehicle. He bought it new, so no shady service history....Maybe he got a dipstick that is 1/4-3/8" too long?

Just add a little more lube!

 

[bleda2002]

My 3.6 also seems to be eating oil. I changed my oil about 5k miles ago and when I went to change it this weekend it was about 7/8ths of a quart low. Probably going to take it in to the dealer to double check it.

 

[JET_83]

I can't think of any manufacturer that would admit it's too much after 4,000 miles, but that doesn't mean it should be down that much.
Some go so far as to say a quart in 2,000 miles is normal - but that's very excessive in my experience unless it's a legacy V8 - my 390s and 360s would indeed drop a quart in 2,000 miles, under extreme use, even a quart in 1,000 miles but then look at how they are designed!

Go ahead and check it out if you don't believe me. Consumer reports, cars dot com and the owners manuals in my collection of car and Jeep owner manuals over the years - many of them state the same thing. Even BMW today says the same.

I disagree when applied to MODERN vehicles, but it made total sense with old piston and ring designs, and other differences.
Today, IMO, it would be absolutely totally unacceptable to go through a quart of oil in 3,000 miles.

@CrazyCooter - check this out -

For references, mine received exactly 5 quarts of oil about 4 weeks ago so it's got a few hundred miles on it - look where the oil is on the stick with FIVE (5) quarts of oil, not 5.5 quarts, not 5.3 quarts, 5.0 quarts - I even aimed the end down-hill so oil wouldn't run up higher on the stick, you can tell by the drip forming on the end to the right.

Not about not believing you just think that’s crazy that’s considered acceptable to any of them these days.

 

[Gvsukids]

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[JET_83]

My gfs 2015 charger has 76,000 miles on it and oil has never been added to hers and it’s never been low or lower than what should be with 6 quarts of oil added, it’s right where it should be on the dipstick

 

[ShadowsPapa]

My 3.6 also seems to be eating oil. I changed my oil about 5k miles ago and when I went to change it this weekend it was about 7/8ths of a quart low. Probably going to take it in to the dealer to double check it.

7/8? So it was 4 ounces from being a quart low. Does your dip-cable have micrometer markings?
J/K

I just checked the oil on my 4.0 - it's got about 700 miles since last change and is still right at the full mark. I'd expect it to drop a bit after 3500 miles, but it's never dropped a quart in that time.
It's close to 34,000 miles or in that area since I rebuilt it. The spark plugs stay pretty clean and normal looking, never any black or sooty or oily deposits. They are the plugs I put in it for the rebuild.

jet dude when in Iowa stop by my shop sometime, you can go through my cabinet of new engine parts and see the ring designs and pistons from ages ago -, the documentation from Dana corp, and you can see the 3 V8s I have sitting here waiting for a rebuild (if I ever get back to them!)
You can pull the heads off my 360 so I can machine down the rocker stud bosses to add my Scorpion roller rockers to it. I need some younger muscle them danged heads keep getting heavier each passing year.

 

[Rusty PW]

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[JET_83]

7/8? So it was 4 ounces from being a quart low. Does your dip-cable have micrometer markings?
J/K

I just checked the oil on my 4.0 - it's got about 700 miles since last change and is still right at the full mark. I'd expect it to drop a bit after 3500 miles, but it's never dropped a quart in that time.
It's close to 34,000 miles or in that area since I rebuilt it. The spark plugs stay pretty clean and normal looking, never any black or sooty or oily deposits. They are the plugs I put in it for the rebuild.

jet dude when in Iowa stop by my shop sometime, you can go through my cabinet of new engine parts and see the ring designs and pistons from ages ago -, the documentation from Dana corp, and you can see the 3 V8s I have sitting here waiting for a rebuild (if I ever get back to them!)
You can pull the heads off my 360 so I can machine down the rocker stud bosses to add my Scorpion roller rockers to it. I need some younger muscle them danged heads keep getting heavier each passing year.

sounds good to me dude

 

[Rusty PW]

sounds good to me dude

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