How much weight does it take to sag a Mojave

[MVTV]

I’m installing an Alu-Cab contour canopy (136 pounds) and a Alu-Cab 3R roof top tent (167 pounds) on my 2023 Mojave. Will adding 310 pounds (round up) sag the rear? Research shows the big campers do create sag but not sure if 310 pound setup would.

And if so, what are the do’s and don’ts for fixing it while keeping Fox shocks.

Many thanks

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[Lunentucker]

I hauled as much as 500 pounds of fertilizer in mine and the sag seemed negligible to me.

 

[Mtpisgah]

This is with an empty ACCC and awning on a Mojave. LOD steel bumpers and a winch. It sagged and handled horribly. Dobinson HD coils on the back and standard coils on the front fixed it.

 

[Mr._Bill]

Look at the door stickers. Your payload capacity is listed there. If your add-ons in the back stay below half of that, you should not see any noticeable sag.

The Mojave was designed as a high speed Desert Runner. It has the best ride of all the trims. With the stock suspension, any additional weight on the front has a big impact on the ride and handling. Nearing or exceeding the Payload capacity in the back will cause similar issues.

 

[MVTV]

This is with an empty ACCC and awning on a Mojave. LOD steel bumpers and a winch. It sagged and handled horribly. Dobinson HD coils on the back and standard coils on the front fixed it.

That’s a lot more weight than I’ll be putting on.

All you did was swap out the coils? Didn’t have to do anything else like shock extensions? Sounds easy simple enough.

 

[Bjeepz]

In my experience you will notice some sag with that weight for sure, but no more than an inch. I say install and see how it sits. Daystar makes a 3/4 inch rear spacer, there are other sizes of spacers that will fit in there also, unless you don't like the handling a spacer might suit your needs. I feel like my Mojave handles a little better with a 100+ lbs in the bed.

 

[MojaveLawyer]

Also running a rear tire carrier with the spare and hilift jack. Probably with everything, including my tactical gear and tools, 300lbs+ easy.

Slight sag but not too noticeable. Running a 3.5 Metalcloak lift.

Cheers.

 

[PuddleJumper]

I go off of the rear lower control arms. At stock unloaded they should be level with the ground. around 450 ish it'll start to sag. The issue isn't necessarily how much sag so much as it rides like ass offroad if you got some weight in the rear. Your gonna have to play with weights and see what you can live with. I don't run a RTT on most of my trips anymore because the weight made the fast stuff a bit sketch. went to hammock and got to enjoy my Rally/jumping with confidence. But you could totally put 1000 lbs back there if you wanted.

 

[Mtpisgah]

That’s a lot more weight than I’ll be putting on.

All you did was swap out the coils? Didn’t have to do anything else like shock extensions? Sounds easy simple enough.

I ended putting a lift on it when I changed the coils. Shock extensions are not needed if you just change the coil but stay with the same height.
My setup did weigh more than yours will, but I would still consider upgrading. Even if you do not get significant sag, the driving dynamics will change. I experienced bouncing with stock coils, even with adjustable shocks. It was not until I changed to the HD coils that the bouncing went away and it rode better.

 

[NotSo Bright White]

And remember, if you add a camper, you will add more gear unless you are pulling a trailer. And it adds up quickly. Are you going to bring water? What about food, ice chest, fire wood, beach chairs, and more? A lesson I learned from being a wildland firefighter for 30 plus years, ounces make pounds, and before you know it, you are carrying more weight than you should.

I run a 350 pound Harker Outdoor EDC camper on my Rubicon with a Mopar 2 inch lift. I will eventually replace it will an AEV dual sport HD lift as it is heavy when loaded out. My Mojave will remain light and nimble for hitting speed bumps at the mall!
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[BennieD]

Sumo springs are great when towing etc

 

[GI Grandpa]

I’m installing an Alu-Cab contour canopy (136 pounds) and a Alu-Cab 3R roof top tent (167 pounds) on my 2023 Mojave. Will adding 310 pounds (round up) sag the rear? Research shows the big campers do create sag but not sure if 310 pound setup would.

And if so, what are the do’s and don’ts for fixing it while keeping Fox shocks.

Many thanks

With a loaded bed, about 600 lbs, I noticed very little sag. Added a 2,000 lb trailer and it sagged a lot. There is a difference between having the weight above the rear axle vs. behind it on the bumper. I run Rockhard aluminum bumpers front and rear and the AEV Mojave spacer lift. I routinely load up the bed doing trail projects and have no issues. AEV, Teraflex, Clayton and others all make rear springs designed for overlanding that can handle the extra weight if you need them. Your other option is airbags, but they work best for towing when you only need the extra support occasionally

 

[ParadiseMo]

I was about to post this question for the front end of the mojave because I'm about to add some pounds in the form of a steel stubby bumper and winch with synthetic line.

My impression is maybe a half inch drop, which I wouldn't notice visually but if it's going to make steering any sloppier than already or cause other issues, is it the same kind of solutions already being suggested in this thread?

 

[Wheelin98TJ]

What is the stock rear spring rate for a Mojave? Around 160 lbs/in or so give or take 10 lbs/in?

All the weight you're adding is pretty much centered over the rear springs.

I'd expect about 1" of sag.


*edited, thanks to Zachanahandy for pointing out my mistake.

 

[Mtpisgah]

I was about to post this question for the front end of the mojave because I'm about to add some pounds in the form of a steel stubby bumper and winch with synthetic line.

My impression is maybe a half inch drop, which I wouldn't notice visually but if it's going to make steering any sloppier than already or cause other issues, is it the same kind of solutions already being suggested in this thread?

You will go though the bump stops faster. I did not notice any difference in steering.

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