Jeep’s technology compared to Toyota is stellar

[fourfa]

It's a T-Harness that cuts out the license plate lights when you put the vehicle in reverse so it cuts off the glare on the backup camera.

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[BourbonRunner]

There is no doubt that UConnect system is one of the easiest to use, most straight forward and low-latency infotainment systems out there. It regularly gets accolades in the auto press even if the rest of the vehicle isn't that great. UConnect blows Toyota's current stuff out of the water. New Taco, Land Cruiser, and eventually the 4Runner will have to be a big step up because even the Tundra/Sequoia is lacking.

In the past 2 years I've had experience with Audi, BMW, Ford, Subaru, Chevy, Cadillac and Toyota infotainment and the Jeep was and still is the superior system.

 

[Lunentucker]

New tech on both of these is impressive.

 

[coalcracker]

I have nothing against Toyota. In fact, I owned a 2014 Tacoma for a couple of years and really liked it.

However, back in July I had a brand new Tundra as a rental as a result of the rental car agency running out of the category of car I had reserved. The infotainment system was pretty bad in terms of UI and the other thing that was also egregious … you had to SUBSCRIBE to various features, like navigation. So if you tried to use navigation, it would just pop up a message about subscribing to that service. I get it that things are headed in this way (companies love subscription-based revenue) and I also understand that using CarPlay or Android Auto is a work-around if you want to have in-dash nav, but aside from the horrendous UI on the infotainment system, this whole was reminiscent of scrambled Pay-Per-View TV channels in the 1990s and a was a whole new level of obnoxious.

 

[obrianmcc]

I'm not too overly critical of the in-cabin tech ... what impacts me more is the is the tech that improves the off road capability. My buddy drives a Taco, so we regularly get to compare the two side by side. It's not an uncommon event where my JT walks right through a section (un-locked) and his Taco struggles (even with his locker). I've noticed more than once being in situations where the Jeeps traction control activates like it was actually designed for being off road and then the Taco will lift a wheel and just sit there and spin. Next we can talk about how he struggles to engage 4Lo .....

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I have nothing against Toyota. In fact, I owned a 2014 Tacoma for a couple of years and really liked it.

However, back in July I had a brand new Tundra as a rental as a result of the rental car agency running out of the category of car I had reserved. The infotainment system was pretty bad in terms of UI and the other thing that was also egregious … you had to SUBSCRIBE to various features, like navigation. So if you tried to use navigation, it would just pop up a message about subscribing to that service. I get it that things are headed in this way (companies love subscription-based revenue) and I also understand that using CarPlay or Android Auto is a work-around if you want to have in-dash nav, but aside from the horrendous UI on the infotainment system, this whole was reminiscent of scrambled Pay-Per-View TV channels in the 1990s and a was a whole new level of obnoxious.

This sort of thing was predicted by Bill Gates decades ago. You won't own software or features, you will run everything from the cloud. All that you will have locally is the processing power to run it.
It's a big win for big tech as they can totally control versions and not have to worry about combinations of software or updates gone bad.
Microsoft 365..........
Heck, I can't even get into a modern Windows PC or laptop without an account out there. Time was when I could fire up a PC and run almost anything with NO network or internet connection. Now if there's no connection, half the stuff won't run properly. Bad for many of us.
I sure hope the subscription crap from the auto companies takes into account - there ain't no internet where I park (and much of where I live) Linux is the only answer there. Google controls Chromebooks so tightly they can't do anything without good internet and after a time, they stop running on older hardware, forcing constant updates of hardware. (looking forward to the 'right to repair laws')
I used to have to drive a mile before some of my icons would show up on the radio screen - somehow it's better now - things show up pretty quickly. But it was concerning to have to drive out to where the AT&T coverage was just to get access to stuff I paid for.
AT&T coverage out there totally sucks. (and when I participated in a question thing, I made note that I would not subscribe to what they were asking me if I would subscribe to because it relied on internet and a lot of the country doesn't have good internet. I let them know their reliance on one carrier meant no contact with my Jeep in many cases)

 

[troverman]

Foe some reason, there is this notion that Toyotas are somehow better than other vehicles. I completely disagree. Sure, there are some well made Toyota vehicles. I love the 100 series Land Cruiser, and even a cheap Corolla is indeed economical and usually very reliable. But so are many cars. There are thousands of domestic pickup trucks that hit 300k+ miles, and I'm talking half ton and heavy duty gas models, not just diesels. Toyota has marketed themselves to this position of perfect reliability, but unfortunately for the Toyota disciples...its not reality.

Jeep is far from perfect. The UConnect system is pretty nice. However, I'll continue to complain about how difficult it is just to engage 4x4 with the stiff transfer case lever. No reason for that.

 

[Hootbro]

Foe some reason, there is this notion that Toyotas are somehow better than other vehicles. I completely disagree. Sure, there are some well made Toyota vehicles. I love the 100 series Land Cruiser, and even a cheap Corolla is indeed economical and usually very reliable. But so are many cars. There are thousands of domestic pickup trucks that hit 300k+ miles, and I'm talking half ton and heavy duty gas models, not just diesels. Toyota has marketed themselves to this position of perfect reliability, but unfortunately for the Toyota disciples...its not reality.

There has been a prevalent hypothesis for many decades that Toyota actually builds a better customer rather than so much a better vehicle.

Having owned many Toyota's over the years and even up to recently been in both a Toyota and CDJR service department, I can say Toyota is leaps and bounds above any CDJR dealership in how they run and provide customer support while providing service.

 

[Gvsukids]

I'm not too overly critical of the in-cabin tech ... what impacts me more is the is the tech that improves the off road capability. My buddy drives a Taco, so we regularly get to compare the two side by side. It's not an uncommon event where my JT walks right through a section (un-locked) and his Taco struggles (even with his locker). I've noticed more than once being in situations where the Jeeps traction control activates like it was actually designed for being off road and then the Taco will lift a wheel and just sit there and spin. Next we can talk about how he struggles to engage 4Lo .....

He should use crawl control. I've heard that's the bomb.

 

[keithcroshaw]

Yea the Taco I sat in to get a feel before deciding to go with the Jeep seemed about a decade behind. Even with my smaller screen it feels more modern than the Toyota did. Still plan to swap it out for the Stinger if they'll release a wireless Carplay model. My black and white cluster seemed more useful as well.

 

[BearFootSam]

There is no doubt that UConnect system is one of the easiest to use, most straight forward and low-latency infotainment systems out there. It regularly gets accolades in the auto press even if the rest of the vehicle isn't that great. UConnect blows Toyota's current stuff out of the water. New Taco, Land Cruiser, and eventually the 4Runner will have to be a big step up because even the Tundra/Sequoia is lacking.

In the past 2 years I've had experience with Audi, BMW, Ford, Subaru, Chevy, Cadillac and Toyota infotainment and the Jeep was and still is the superior system.

No kidding, I drove a Tesla and for the size of the screen nearly every feature was buried beneath layers of menus. Flipping on defrosters or dimming cabin lights should be eyes free which means tactile buttons. There's nothing worse driving a winding mountain road than having to choose between fogged up glass or poking through menus with eyes off the road to turn on the defog. A button that falls beneath your fingers without a thought is a luxury that shouldn't be.

 

[BourbonRunner]

No kidding, I drove a Tesla and for the size of the screen nearly every feature was buried beneath layers of menus. Flipping on defrosters or dimming cabin lights should be eyes free which means tactile buttons. There's nothing worse driving a winding mountain road than having to choose between fogged up glass or poking through menus with eyes off the road to turn on the defog. A button that falls beneath your fingers without a thought is a luxury that shouldn't be.

Tactile buttons are a major deciding factor on what I buy. I hate having to search through screens for basic functions that I can find without taking my eyes off the road.

We almost got an Outback for her instead of the Bronco Sport but the lack of buttons was a major downside.

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