Jeep Theft in Broad Daylight

[dayusmc]

There is only so much we can do. Slow them down so they move on. The Hidden Tazer or AMPIRE is the way to go IF they are installed correctly. Installation id the key, making it blend into the factory wiring with Tesa tape is a MUST.

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[willys 41]

There is only so much we can do. Slow them down so they move on. The Hidden Tazer or AMPIRE is the way to go IF they are installed correctly. Installation id the key, making it blend into the factory wiring with Tesa tape is a MUST.

I agree put with layered protection
I do not have a problem where I live only when traveling

1. Tazer with hood horn and pin enabled
2. Relocate horns so the wires can not be cut
3. Ravelco
4. DroneMobile x1max-lte with glass/motion and engine start alerts via phone(hard wired. NO OBD)
5. Disklok Security Device - Steering Wheel Lock (just added to my security)
6. Will be adding Car Ring as soon as it is available

They may still get it but not in 45 seconds

 

[dayusmc]

I have to research the relocate horn wires thing, to do it to my jeeps.
I had Drone Mobile on my last (now demised) gladiator. The drone Mobile with built in battery back up is the way to go .
I take my doors off, so I really have no need for glass break sensors.
Others may not agree, but I wouldn't use Ravelco especially in NJ. Thieves here are vengeful, if the see that they will vandalize your vehicle. Sometime more is not better. My wifing looks completely stock and that is how I am keeping it.

 

[willys 41]

I have to research the relocate horn wires thing, to do it to my jeeps.
I had Drone Mobile on my last (now demised) gladiator. The drone Mobile with built in battery back up is the way to go .
I take my doors off, so I really have no need for glass break sensors.
Others may not agree, but I wouldn't use Ravelco especially in NJ. Thieves here are vengeful, if the see that they will vandalize your vehicle. Sometime more is not better. My wifing looks completely stock and that is how I am keeping it.

I put my horns behind the after market bumper out of site and rerouted the wires.
I guess I am paranoid put after 4 years and $30k in parts I don't want to lose it.
I will be planning a trip to Vegas / Zion / Moab and Disney Land so I will do what it takes to prevent it from being stolen.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I put my horns behind the after market bumper out of site and rerouted the wires.
I guess I am paranoid put after 4 years and $30k in parts I don't want to lose it.
I will be planning a trip to Vegas / Zion / Moab and Disney Land so I will do what it takes to prevent it from being stolen.

The problem with a stock Jeep is - the horns are where everyone knows they are, they are in plain sight, and very simple and fast to disable on a stock Jeep JT or JL.
So what if you have an "alarm" - if they can kill the sound before triggering it, it won't matter.
Alarms with an alert sent to phone is how it should be, but with all of the tech in these, they don't, or won't.

Moving them so they are still very loud and effective and hiding the wires should be a first for anyone using alarms.
That's something any Jeep owner with even basic skills can do.

I'm not concerned around here - but driving to Louisiana, Florida and so on - or stops at hotels - that's a concern.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

Found the video link of the Dallas Wrangler. Sadly it wasn't just a Wrangler, it was also a 392 ?

Dang - those on our dealer's lot have an MSRP of about 96K - ouch.
Some day you won't have an easy time replacing those, they are an endangered species.

 

[sharpsicle]

I agree put with layered protection
I do not have a problem where I live only when traveling

1. Tazer with hood horn and pin enabled
2. Relocate horns so the wires can not be cut
3. Ravelco
4. DroneMobile x1max-lte with glass/motion and engine start alerts via phone(hard wired. NO OBD)
5. Disklok Security Device - Steering Wheel Lock (just added to my security)
6. Will be adding Car Ring as soon as it is available

They may still get it but not in 45 seconds

You know, a hood lock would probably be better/easier than relocating wires in there.

 

[willys 41]

You know, a hood lock would probably be better/easier than relocating wires in there.

They cut the wires through the grill
A hood lock will not stop them. It will only cause hood damage wile they pry open your hood

 

[sharpsicle]

They cut the wires through the grill
A hood lock will not stop them. It will only cause hood damage wile they pry open your hood

Wait. I thought you were all about deterrents? If you're worried about damage then don't lock your vehicle.

If you want to deter people, a hood lock is the first and easiest thing you can do. Videos have shown that popping the hood open is the first thing that typically is done.

 

[willys 41]

Wait. I thought you were all about deterrents? If you're worried about damage then don't lock your vehicle.

If you want to deter people, a hood lock is the first and easiest thing you can do. Videos have shown that popping the hood open is the first thing that typically is done.

If they pop the hood the alarm will go off because they could not cut the horn wires.
Maybe I will add a cheap hood alarm also. Just to give them one more thing to disarm giving me more time to get an alert from my drone mobile.

 

[willys 41]

Wait. I thought you were all about deterrents? If you're worried about damage then don't lock your vehicle.

If you want to deter people, a hood lock is the first and easiest thing you can do. Videos have shown that popping the hood open is the first thing that typically is done.

In almost all cases I pick a hotel room where I can part right out side my room window

 

[mrmo]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/toron...ont-doors-avoid-confrontation-violent-thieves


As car thefts have spiked in Toronto, Canada, local police are prescribing new safety measures so that locals can avoid violent encounters with thieves.

One of the recent bits of advice included Toronto Police telling residents of the town of Etobicoke to leave their car key fobs near the door to avoid being attacked in their homes by potential burglars.

According to police, the number of car thefts in the city has more than doubled in recent years. In 2023, more than 12,000 vehicles were reported stolen. In 2019, just over 5,000 were reported stolen.

Thieves have begun breaking into houses to steal keys in order to steal cars, prompting controversial prevention advice from Toronto Police Constable Marco Ricciardi at an Etobicoke town hall last month, according to City News.

During the town hall, Ricciardi advised that residents leave their car keys near the front doors of their houses so that they do not have to confront violent criminals, who he noted often have "real guns."

He said at the Feb. 27 meeting, "To prevent the possibility of being attacked in your home, leave your FOBs at your front door. Because they’re breaking into your home to steal your car. They don’t want anything else."

"A lot of them that they’re arresting have guns on them. And they’re not toy guns, they’re real guns. They’re loaded," he added.

Toronto Police sent out a memo clarifying these comments on March 13. The memo, published on the official Toronto Police Service website, also provided additional "Home Invasion Prevention Tips."

It stated, "An officer at a recent community meeting suggested that people leave the keys to their vehicle in a faraday bag by the front door. While well meaning, there are also other ways to prevent auto theft motivated home invasions."

"For additional context, in Toronto, home invasions and break and enters for auto theft occurrences rose 400 percent in 2023. Police are concerned about an escalation in violence, where all sorts of weapons and firearms are being used to steal vehicles, and that includes during home invasions," the page added, before listing other safety tips.

This included instructions to "Park vehicles in garage, if possible," "Ensure your driveway is well lit and keep exterior lights on all night," "install a home security system – activate alarm on STAY when home and AWAY when out," and "Do not post on social media when you will be away on holiday."

Toronto Police responded to Fox News Digital's request for comment on Thursday, reiterating that Ricciardi's comment was "well meaning, and for context, was in response to the increasing number of violent home invasions and break and enters related to vehicle thefts."

A recent report from local outlet "City News Toronto" detailed how police in the York region of the city have been passing out doorstops as extra security against burglars that have been kicking in doors.

Local reporter Michelle Mackey stated, "Doorstops have been handed out to some residents in an effort to prevent door kick break-ins to steal car keys."

A local resident told the outlet that being handed one of these doorsteps made her feel that her area was "very high risk" for break-ins.

Police in other parts of Canada have been slammed for giving unorthodox advice for locals dealing with criminals. Quebec’s local police force, Sûreté du Québec (SQ) advised residents in January not to share footage of thieves stealing packages from their porches to social media, stating that "could be a violation of private life." ****

SQ Lt. Benoit Richard stated, "If you get some proof that somebody might have stolen something, call the police, give that proof to the police. We'll do the investigation, bring that person to justice and file some charges."

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**** That's BULL - if they are implying it violates the rights of a @#$% criminal.
If I catch a thief on video, you bet I'll share it. People used to be put in stockades in the middle of town to SHAME them in public for theft. Time to bring back such things. Make their faces public, warn others - if you see this person, they are a criminal.

Thats funny...the home owners are the ones they better worry about around here. You come in my home uninvited, you will be found floating in the river, well ventilated

 

[Boondocker]

I think the real problem is where you live…

 

[SargeDiesel]

Yet ANOTHER theft thread and debate on how to stop it.
OP - do some searching and you'll find tons of posts.

As far as Ravelco - give me a small drill, VOM, and/or access to the engine bay and I'll be past that thing in no time.
I've had some chats with someone on the topic and did a ton of digging. They are absolutely lying about no thefts.
I've found two people who have posted about defeating it - and publicly told how they did it.



Yeah, a far better idea than some of the other stuff...... any casual thief who knows Jeeps at all will look for tazer and rip it out fast. Gotta hide it. (or whatever device is used)

And yeah, there's at least a half dozen huge threads on this.

Might want to catch up on that old "manual transmission" joke ? - it makes for fun, but you'd be surprised at how many, including Z and Millennials who can drive them fine. And more are requesting to be taught how to drive them.

I had new tires put on my SX4 this week - they had no problems driving it and said it was easier than the Corvette they were also working on. Said everything there could handle a stick.

Yep... basically all the enthusiast that are most likely to be involved in thefts drive manual Honda, Subaru, Toyotas, kia, Hyundai vehicles. They actually seek them out.
Driving a manual isn't the big secret everybody keeps thinking it is... now if your teaching your 15 year old, that's a different story.

 

[SargeDiesel]

They can have 4 FOBS programmed in, and tazer won't allow a start no matter what.
You must either remove TAZER or know the code. Thus one member's quest to hide such a device so it can't easily be found and removed.
Tazer rides the bus and will block or interfere with certain communications unless a code Tazer knows is entered.

So the vehicle with a hidden device that allows pin locking can't be started even if a fob is programmed in via access to the bus star connectors, etc. It's going to cause problems even for the owner if they don't enter the code, even if they have the correct fob.

There is a company making a lock box(cage) for the tazer... I'll try and locate it again.

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