Jeep Theft in Broad Daylight

[SargeDiesel]

Won't matter - they can get in and program their own fob in about 1 minute.

Yes papa, I get it. I was referencing this particular video.

It looked like they were sitting on his vehicle waiting for him to get out... knowing he would activate his fob. So in this particular situation, I bet they cloned it.

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[KX L]

Won't matter - they can get in and program their own fob in about 1 minute.



Doesn't matter.
(for Jeeps it's almost always the starter circuit and fuel pump system)
Doesn't take any time to figure it out.
Even in a Ford, a Ford truck owner figured out how to start his truck as he says "in two minutes".
Ravelco is a fraud - do some real research. There are at least a couple of videos out there and multiple threads on vehicles WITH Ravelco installed, stolen in just a couple of minutes.

I've posted screenshots of the talk of actual thefts with the device properly installed. There's a guy who either has or is developing a unit to plug into the Ravelco and do the work for him - doesn't take a whole lot where there are only TWO circuits impacted.





There's several people who describe exactly how to do it.
First off - find the ground and ignore it, then you have only 2 circuits (4 wires) remaining.
Simple circuit testers can do the rest.
You can use software to watch the BCM and PCM monitor systems and clue you in on which aren't working as they should.
there are many ways to get around that 1970 tech.

SP, Thanks much. I know we discussed before and you said it was easily bypassed. Video proof is good---I'm going to try to bypass mine using his technique. I'll let everyone know how it goes.

 

[ShadowsPapa]

I haven't seen anyone with a CAN bus immobilizer in a jeep say theirs was stolen yet.
Do you have any info on CAN Bus immobilizers being beated?

IGLA - wonder how good that is -
Supposedly you can use any combination of vehicle buttons and the PIN can be anything from something like 4 to 28 (?) in length. It prevents FOB programming, automatic transmission shifting, among other things. And you can connect it to a phone app that allows you to just get in and drive.

Still would recommend a real-time alert system to let someone know if a vehicle was being tampered with to begin with - otherwise they might just get pissed and trash things or steal the radio or whatever

 

[dayusmc]

The IGLA, Ghost II and Ampire are the same. From my research Ghost II is just a rebranded Ampire, possibly the same with the IGLA

I wouldn't put anything "out in the open" because if they are anything like the catalytic converter thieves they will vandalize your vehicle because they are made that you protected it .

As I have said multiple times, a kill switch or a CAN Bus immobilizer is only as good as its install. The Pin lock feature is no good if the tazer is only plugged into the standard location it must be relocated, a kill switch won't work if it is right out in the open...

 

[dayusmc]

There are a lot if tracking devices, Done Mobile makes ibe with a back up battery and you get set geo fences if it leaves an area it will notify you.

But even with the drone Mobile, it has to be hidden well, otherwise they will toss it out on the road and it won't help ...

 

[willys 41]

There are a lot if tracking devices, Done Mobile makes ibe with a back up battery and you get set geo fences if it leaves an area it will notify you.

But even with the drone Mobile, it has to be hidden well, otherwise they will toss it out on the road and it won't help ...

I just had the Done Mobile installed last week and have not got the glass and motion to work yet.
Going back to the installer to find out why.

 

[dayusmc]

I can't stress enough how important install is.

To be honest, you aren't going to find installers that are going to take the time to do it right. They are all production based. If you are in NJ, DM me and I will give you an installer that I have known for over 30 years that will do it right, otherwise so it yourself, it will be better than anyone you pay ro do it.

I know a bunch of people are afraid of doing wiring, but it is really simple. The hardest part of wiring is taking all the interior panels apart....

Again, I keep saying this - all security is only as good as the imstall.

There are comments of here about people having "false" security of their pin lock devices, saying they are easy to disable. I will say this, if anything is improperly installed it is useless. SO all assumptions should be the anti theft device is installed properly, otherwise they are useless. NO Different than saying my winch will get me out of a bind, but if rhe winch was installed improperly, like no power or ground installed, it won't help you.

Too many people on these threads making blanket statements misleading people that certain things work or don't work. Either they are to lazy to read the whole thread or they are trying to be misleading.

BUT if I say something I explain why. It is way to easy to say "this works, or rhis doesn't work", if you are going to say that, give specific reason ls why, otherwise your comments are misleading and useless...

 

[Lost1wing]

My son-in-law thinks he can drive a car with a manual transmission, and by all accounts, he can. The clutch may not survive a year of his abuse, and the engine will see some high rpms and lugging. I don't think he was ever trained on how to drive a stick. He just picked it up on his own. So that number of 66% of knowing I bet would be down in the 30% range, if shifting correctly was considered. Now if his intoxicated wife ( my daughter) turned the car keys over to him to drive home, he would do fine. They Uber when they go out and know drinking is involved, btw.

 

[Lost1wing]

How about 2 hidden kill switches. One just barely in sight that toggles an audible alarm that simply doesn't shut off with the same switch. The second kill switch hidden out of sight enough that they won't look for it while the alarm is going off.

 

[dayusmc]

How about 2 hidden kill switches. One just barely in sight that toggles an audible alarm that simply doesn't shut off with the same switch. The second kill switch hidden out of sight enough that they won't look for it while the alarm is going off.

Again, I don't know if this thread is just getting to long and people aren't reading the whole thing because the same examples that have already been talked about, but go back and READ the whole thread, this has been suggested and talked about already...

 

[Lost1wing]

Again, I don't know if this thread is just getting to long and people aren't reading the whole thing because the same examples that have already been talked about, but go back and READ the whole thread, this has been suggested and talked about already...

Yeah post 85 and counting.... just because it has been said back on post ?, doesn't conclude what people think. The more people read about it gives them more of an idea. It's a forum, sharing info and ideas.

 

[dayusmc]

Yeah post 85 and counting.... just because it has been said back on post ?, doesn't conclude what people think. The more people read about it gives them more of an idea. It's a forum, sharing info and ideas.

I agree, but if you go through the thread it is obvious that there are some people that don't read thr whole thread and just jump in with the same things that have already been discussed.

How many times can you address the same things? It is like being in a hamster wheel. I have noticed that the more knowledgeable people on here have stoped replying to posts. Jimmy07 is probably the most knowable on Jeep wiring, but he rarely comments anymore, I don't blame him. To be honest, I am surprised that Shadowspapa still replies to posts. He is really knowledgeable, but has to repeat himself multiple times on the same things over and over ... Thise guys are better than me, but it won't be ling before I stop posting the things I do and I am pretty particular in doing more complicated things, like the Tazer relocation harness...

 

[abe57]

Here is another deterrent that has been talked about way back . I just bought one and should be here Thursday. Sounds good if it works as described . I got the motion one and should work like the Toyota trucks do as in putting the fob to sleep and not putting out a signal . This will be my 3rd deterrent .It came to $193.86 https://keylessprotector.com/buy-keyless-protector/#review

 

[Lost1wing]

I agree, but if you go through the thread it is obvious that there are some people that don't read thr whole thread and just jump in with the same things that have already been discussed.

How many times can you address the same things? It is like being in a hamster wheel. I have noticed that the more knowledgeable people on here have stoped replying to posts. Jimmy07 is probably the most knowable on Jeep wiring, but he rarely comments anymore, I don't blame him. To be honest, I am surprised that Shadowspapa still replies to posts. He is really knowledgeable, but has to repeat himself multiple times on the same things over and over ... Thise guys are better than me, but it won't be ling before I stop posting the things I do and I am pretty particular in doing more complicated things, like the Tazer relocation harness...

So I really didn't see my idea with two switches. One that the thief would think is a hidden kill switch that actually sounds an alarm. And a second kill switch that functions as a kill switch. I followed this thread from the beginning, so forgive me if I missed such a plan. Maybe that's were my idea came from, or another stolen vehicle thread. I had to think about what day it it today. Tuesday?

 

[Lost1wing]

I agree, but if you go through the thread it is obvious that there are some people that don't read thr whole thread and just jump in with the same things that have already been discussed.

How many times can you address the same things? It is like being in a hamster wheel. I have noticed that the more knowledgeable people on here have stoped replying to posts. Jimmy07 is probably the most knowable on Jeep wiring, but he rarely comments anymore, I don't blame him. To be honest, I am surprised that Shadowspapa still replies to posts. He is really knowledgeable, but has to repeat himself multiple times on the same things over and over ... Thise guys are better than me, but it won't be ling before I stop posting the things I do and I am pretty particular in doing more complicated things, like the Tazer relocation harness...

A lot of the same things are also in older ( dead ) posts. It's fine to say there are a lot of post on a topic. It's okay post a new one too. This wouldn't be a forum if we had to research every topic we needed info on.

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