Mojave lift question...

[Toro34]

Haha, "Mojave Hype"- WHY would you ever buy a Mojave if you didn't value the way the truck was set up from the factory?- doesn't make sense at all. Didn't you test drive one before you bought it to figure that out??? The ride from a Mojave vs other JT's is subjective to the driver on road, but do NOT tell me the Mojave is "hype" over a Rubicon JT driving fast in the desert.

If you purchased a Mojave to mainly rock crawl, well then that's on you but don't blame the truck if you're not using it for the right purpose.

You are comparing Falcon 3.3's to the stock Fox shocks on the Mojave, which is apples to oranges. We are NOT comparing what you can add aftermarket, just stock to stock - so your comment about decrease in performance may be true, but does NOT apply in a stock truck since none of them come with Falcon 3.3's. If you think that Falcon 3.3's are the best option with performance and adjustability (not arguing this point) then it would have been smarter to buy a Rubicon JT and change the 3.3's.

My dude, who hurt you?...
My opinion, and I'm sure I am not the only one, is that the Mojave isn't the end all, be all of the Gladiator world.

I did NOT buy it to rock crawl, I still have my JK for that. I bought it to hit some dirt roads, haul small items in the bed, and commute. I liked the look, the hood, the interior, accents and stance. I knew exactly what I was getting into and what to expect.

Of course, once you stray from the factory set up, the factory suspension will no longer function as designed. Which is why, knowing i would add bumpers, tires etc, i planned to upgrade to something else
OP asked about 38s and an aftermarket lift vs the AEV spacer. I gave my experience with the exact kit in question, my plans and my opinion

Not directed at you, JarHead, by any means, but I feel like too many people on the forum (and online in general) just regurgitate what they have read online, have no real world experience, and jump in too quickly to spew nonsense.( ie the Mojave drives like a luxury SUV! it drives like a sports car! the lift and tires make it drive better than stock! )

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[JarHeadLV]

My dude, who hurt you?...
My opinion, and I'm sure I am not the only one, is that the Mojave isn't the end all, be all of the Gladiator world.

I did NOT buy it to rock crawl, I still have my JK for that. I bought it to hit some dirt roads, haul small items in the bed, and commute. I liked the look, the hood, the interior, accents and stance. I knew exactly what I was getting into and what to expect.

Of course, once you stray from the factory set up, the factory suspension will no longer function as designed. Which is why, knowing i would add bumpers, tires etc, i planned to upgrade to something else
OP asked about 38s and an aftermarket lift vs the AEV spacer. I gave my experience with the exact kit in question, my plans and my opinion

Not directed at you, JarHead, by any means, but I feel like too many people on the forum (and online in general) just regurgitate what they have read online, have no real world experience, and jump in too quickly to spew nonsense.

Who hurt me? haha, what a deflection to what Im asking. WHY would you compare a 3.3 Falcon shock to a stock Fox shock on the Gladiator and say the Mojave is "hype" - clearly you are mudding the waters by not comparing apples to apples. if you're going to compare a stock Rubicon to a stock Mojave, then give your opinion on that.

By the way- YOU are the one spewing nonsense by comparing apples to oranges and then posting it

 

[Toro34]

Who hurt me? haha, what a deflection to what Im asking. WHY would you compare a 3.3 Falcon shock to a stock Fox shock on the Gladiator and say the Mojave is "hype" - clearly you are mudding the waters by not comparing apples to apples.

To answer you, and clarify for the OP:

I bought the Mojave hoping i would be able to keep the OEM shocks and the 2" AEV lift. I have the Falcons, and was hoping the Fox's would be close enough. In my opinion, they aren't. When the time comes to rebuild them, I'm leaning towards replacement instead

 

[JarHeadLV]

To answer you, and clarify for the OP:

I bought the Mojave hoping i would be able to keep the OEM shocks and the 2" AEV lift. I have the Falcons, and was hoping the Fox's would be close enough. In my opinion, they aren't. When the time comes to rebuild them, I'm leaning towards replacement instead

Ah ok- thanks for clearing up that you're comparing a 3.3 Falcon shock to the stock Mojave shock (apples to oranges) You mentioned the word "hype" -without comparing the stock Rubicon to Mojave. THIS IS WHY people, like myself don't like apples to oranges comments that are misleading or just false. We on the same page now?

 

[Toro34]

Ah ok- thanks for clearing up that you're comparing a 3.3 Falcon shock to the stock Mojave shock (apples to oranges) You mentioned the word "hype" -without comparing the stock Rubicon to Mojave. THIS IS WHY people, like myself don't like apples to oranges comments that are misleading or just false. We on the same page now?

Definitely apples to oranges. Not arguing that fact. I even said at the end of my original post, since the OP will be on road 99% of the time, the 2" AEV lift will suit them

 

[cmb396]

Definitely apples to oranges. Not arguing that fact. I even said at the end of my original post, since the OP will be on road 99% of the time, the 2" AEV lift will suit them

Yea, truck will be a pavement pounder. It currently has some sort of 2" spacer lift and shock ext from previous owner. When/if I make the trade, I thought about going with a 2.5" actual lift, scrap the spacers, keep the fox 2.5's, and run 37's or 38's. It also has the amercan adventure fender chop and high line lights, which is done to all of my jeeps, so wheel clearance is quite a bit even with a 2-2.5" lift.

So back to the falcons, I took 3.2's off the JLUR I'm getting rid of. I know the rears will not work, but will the fronts work from a JLUR to a mojave? Thinking I read the the shock eyelet was different size or something at one point?!

 

[Toro34]

Yea, truck will be a pavement pounder. It currently has some sort of 2" spacer lift and shock ext from previous owner. When/if I make the trade, I thought about going with a 2.5" actual lift, scrap the spacers, keep the fox 2.5's, and run 37's or 38's. It also has the amercan adventure fender chop and high line lights, which is done to all of my jeeps, so wheel clearance is quite a bit even with a 2-2.5" lift.

So back to the falcons, I took 3.2's off the JLUR I'm getting rid of. I know the rears will not work, but will the fronts work from a JLUR to a mojave? Thinking I read the the shock eyelet was different size or something at one point?!

the Mojave shocks have larger bolts/eyelets. I do not believe the Falcons will work without modification

 

[Huhnowwhat]

I have 2" synergy springs and their shock extensions on our Mojave and love it. I've also had the factory shocks rebuilt and re-valved, which made a noticeable difference. We mainly blast across the deserts and do minimal rock crawling. So far I've been really impressed with our current setup.

 

[FloridaMan655321]

Not trying to hijack the thread, but as I'll be needing new tires soon, I was thinking of sticking with the stock rims and get 35's without any other mods. Did you think about just sticking to the stock suspension? Did you get any rubbing or anything that drove you into the lift?

 

[1550jrit]

I’m currently running the AEV Mojave lift, AEV geometry correction brackets, MC steering brace, MC adjustable track bars, and 37’s for the past 8k miles. I love the ride, super comfortable, and I can literally drive it with two fingers. When the factory shocks are toast, I’ll likely jump over to a full MC setup. AEV is a great setup for the money. I get zero rub daily driving and will report back after I get back from the Black Hill Jeep Jamboree. I will be installing Apex Autolynx before that trip.

 

[cmb396]

I’m currently running the AEV Mojave lift, AEV geometry correction brackets, MC steering brace, MC adjustable track bars, and 37’s for the past 8k miles. I love the ride, super comfortable, and I can literally drive it with two fingers. When the factory shocks are toast, I’ll likely jump over to a full MC setup. AEV is a great setup for the money. I get zero rub daily driving and will report back after I get back from the Black Hill Jeep Jamboree. I will be installing Apex Autolynx before that trip.

Nice, thanks for the reply and feedback. Based on that stance, with AAL fender chop lights, 38's would have plenty of clearance. The mojave I am looking at already has that done. I am running 39" KM3 on my JTR frankenlift. Springs are 2" mopar with TF 1.5 spacer in the front, synergy front end and control arms.
Thinking along same lines as you tho, most economical way to run 37s/38's and retain stock shocks for now.

 

[yoda13]

From what I understand, the Mojave shocks need to be rebuilt around 50k miles. Im not sure of the cost, but factor that in to the life of your vehicle

i put a 2" AEV lift (and some Baja Boss 37s) on my Mojave in the first 2k miles. Once I hit 50k mark, ill re-evaluate decide if I want to stick with the OEM shocks and rebuild, or upgrade to something with more adjustability. But i wanted to see if the Mojave hype was real (it isnt)

coming from the Falcon 3.3 Adjustable shocks on my JK (i can't say enough good things about them) I did notice a decrease in ride quality in the Mojave, so most likely i will go with a full 2.5-3" lift when the time comes

Having the ability to adjust to a different setting for highway/street/offroad is great, but since you think 99% will be on road, im sure the factory shocks will serve you well

just food for thought

As best I can tell, if you send the shocks to Fox to rebuild them, it’s $175 a shock.

 

[yoda13]

the Mojave shocks have larger bolts/eyelets. I do not believe the Falcons will work without modification

Teraflex sells new pieces that will allow them to work with rhe Mojave.

 

[Lunentucker]

Teraflex sells new pieces that will allow them to work with rhe Mojave.

https://teraflex.com/jt-mojave-falcon-shock-bushing-kit-front.html

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