My Sport S took a dump today…

[cb4017]

I love these sort of posts.
"You don't need all that new fangled waaiirrin'. My 79 runs just fine without all that schtuff."

Well, when the big EMP happens my 62 Falcon will still be running...

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[RavensEyeOffroad]

Well, when the big EMP happens my 62 Falcon will still be running...

Hope you have fuel stored up.

 

[869 KPH]

Hope you have fuel stored up.

Yeah, in 2021 that means having about 200 gallons in trash bags in the trunk.

 

[guarnibl]

Mine did exactly this— factory routed a wiring harness around an exhaust manifold and it took 4000 miles before it caused a problem. Otherwise could be fuses or a bad ground as others suggested. I’m sure they’ll sort it quickly.

 

[redrider]

Well, when the big EMP happens my 62 Falcon will still be running...

So will my 74 Norton and 89 Guzzi.

 

[dcmdon]

Just a clarification. The steering doesn't "fail" or "stick".

The power assist goes away. This is certainly dangerous enough but its vastly different from the steering failing.

Generally accidents happen in the first few seconds after the the power assist for the steering stops working. This is when the driver is trying to figure out what is happening. Once you realize what is happening, you can drive quite adequately by using what a friend calls "Armstrong" steering.

If you are old enough to have driven a carbureted car, you've probably had it stall when you stepped on the clutch and the engine at idle. The power steering goes away and you just deal with it.

This is in no way a criticism of the OP. It just seems like what he said may have been misinterpreted by some young people who have never had a car stall and lose power steering on them before.

 

[dcmdon]

Well, when the big EMP happens my 62 Falcon will still be running...

Unfortunately no, it won't. The coil and generator will fry.

I was talking to this with a friend recently. He reminded me that the only EMP proof car is an old school diesel with a mechanical fuel injection system. Ha.

And even then it must be a manual so it can be bump started.

 

[869 KPH]

Just a clarification. The steering doesn't "fail" or "stick".

The power assist goes away. This is certainly dangerous enough but its vastly different from the steering failing.

Generally accidents happen when the power steering stops working right in the first few seconds. When the driver is trying to figure out what is happening. Once you realize what is happening, you can drive quite adequately by using what a friend calls "Armstrong" steering.

Is this right? I thought the steering was electronic or some drive-by-wire thing. Typing that out makes me realize that's probably nuts, huh? You can still turn the wheels when the Jeep is off?

If you are old enough to have driven a carbureted car, you've probably had it stall when you stepped on the clutch and the engine at idle. The power steering goes away and you just deal with it.

Yep. Ended up in a few ditches that way.

 

[dcmdon]

The Jeep may have an electric power steering pump. That means that if the engine dies, the pump still operates and you still have power steering.

It also means that if the electronics that control it go nuts, it could stop and you could lose power steering with the engine still running.

But you still have a 100% mechanical connection to the steering. The only thing that is different is the boost is no longer provided by a belt running off the engine.

 

[be77solo]

Yep, gotta love electrical crap like this on new vehicles, seems to get them all....

The battery in my 2019 Tundra had an internal battery short while I was out running errands, same crazy stuff, stuck and had to be towed, dealer tested and put in new battery. All good after.

Just dealt with this too on my wife's Alfa Romeo right before we traded it. The auto start/stop drained the battery because she "doesn't drive enough highway" in a week per dealer, and just has the one battery. They charged it and sent us on our way. Didn't even offer to swap in a new battery. We traded it a couple weeks later.

But they both did the same crazy stuff, everything electric starts going nuts.

 

[obrianmcc]

Have you reseated any fuses and/or wiggled some wiring harnesses? That should narrow down some potentially easily fixed problems. I'm not sure which fuses are most prone to this issue, but it's pretty common from what I've read here. 9700 miles is a lot for the issue to happen now, but it's worth a look.

I also recall a similar issue and they reseated a fuse ... solved the issue. I saved a photo of the fuse, but of course now cannot locate it ....

 

[cecaa850]

Could be either the bus goung down or low voltage. Most likely a bus/wiring or wiring connector issue.

 

[am1978]

The Jeep may have an electric power steering pump. That means that if the engine dies, the pump still operates and you still have power steering.

It also means that if the electronics that control it go nuts, it could stop and you could use power steering with the engine still running.

But you still have a 100% mechanical connection to the steering. The only thing that is different is the boost is no longer provided by a belt running off the engine.

So it’s like driving my old YJ (2.5L, 4-cylinder).

 

[OrangeTJ]

Had something similar happen in a different vehicle. Turned out that a rodent had chewed through several wires. Display lit up like a christmas tree!

 

[LiftedrubiconJT]

Good luck. I had same issue. Jeep was broke for 2 months. In 2 different dealerships for over 5 weeks between the 2

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