Official EcoDiesel Oil and Filter Recommendations

[biodiesel]

@Rusty PW, are you running the factory or aftermarket tune?

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[Rusty PW]

@Rusty PW, are you running the factory or aftermarket tune?

Factory.

 

[biodiesel]

Factory.

@Rusty PW, when you get a chance, could you either post or send me the missing information so that we can fill in this chart? I would like to compare iron and aluminum numbers. Also, could you provide viscosity?

Odometer Miles	Interval	Oil	Iron	Aluminum
		Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40		19
		Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40		19
47,260 miles	7,130 miles	Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40		19

 

[Rusty PW]

@Rusty PW, when you get a chance, could you either post or send me the missing information so that we can fill in this chart? I would like to compare iron and aluminum numbers. Also, could you provide viscosity?

Odometer Miles	Interval	Oil	Iron	Aluminum
		Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40		19
		Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40		19
47,260 miles	7,130 miles	Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40		19

PM me your e-mail address and I will send you all of my test results.

 

[biodiesel]

@Rusty PW suggested that we start a new thread with UOA results only, which would be a good idea. When I get more time, I might do that. Here's the data for @Rusty PW running Mobil 1.

Odometer Miles	Interval	Oil	Iron	Aluminum	Viscosity
34,266 miles	6,077 miles	Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40	25	19	12.74
40,130 miles	5,864 miles	Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40	23	19	12.26
47,260 miles	7,130 miles	Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40	24	19	12.94

 

[Bananaman]

Got my test results back from Blackstone on my latest oil change. Still can't copy and paste it. Don't know why it won't do it.

Oil is Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40. 3rd oil change using it. Miles on JT. 47,260. Miles on oil, 7,130.

Though still a bit high, it's nice to see aluminum as stable as it is. Not every engine ends up wearing exactly the same and aluminum hasn't settled all that far from the average range. Other metals are stable as well, and after a
longer run that shows improvement in the wear rates (ppm per mile). There's nothing amiss in the physical properties. The TBN was 7.4 - plenty of active additive left considering 2.0 is what we call low. Feel free to stick with this oil.

Aluminum is 19. The last 3 oil change has been 19. Fuel in oil is <0.5%. Everything else is in the universal averages.

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I like that it has the API SN rating also.
Only question I have is; it shows ACEA E7, E9 on the bottle. E7 is high SAPS, E9 is mid SAPS. Which is it?

 

[biodiesel]

I like that it has the API SN rating also.
Only question I have is; it shows ACEA E7, E9 on the bottle. E7 is high SAPS, E9 is mid SAPS. Which is it?

Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 is considered a mid-SAPS oil.

 

[GladiatorPilot23]

Got my test results back from Blackstone on my latest oil change. Still can't copy and paste it. Don't know why it won't do it.

Oil is Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40. 3rd oil change using it. Miles on JT. 47,260. Miles on oil, 7,130.

Though still a bit high, it's nice to see aluminum as stable as it is. Not every engine ends up wearing exactly the same and aluminum hasn't settled all that far from the average range. Other metals are stable as well, and after a
longer run that shows improvement in the wear rates (ppm per mile). There's nothing amiss in the physical properties. The TBN was 7.4 - plenty of active additive left considering 2.0 is what we call low. Feel free to stick with this oil.

Aluminum is 19. The last 3 oil change has been 19. Fuel in oil is <0.5%. Everything else is in the universal averages.

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Thanks Rusty,

The numbers would be 20% since this is Blackstone on avg. The proven way to get less wear would be the tune on the 3rd Pilot post combustion fueling. That tiny droplet of diesel is used to keep things in the SCR hotter from what I have read. Since GDE the best tuner can't do that, you would need MR to do it. The other helper would be running Amsoil MS or HPL oil.

I have 2 new ECUs. I was going to clone 1 and ask MR to just change that 3rd pilot as I rather have the Derringer control the tuning for HP/TQ with fine tuning of AF to match OEM. The other option is for me to get HP tuner's and learn to edit the 3rd pilot myself.

Would love to see your future reports from an ISO lab with accurate data.

 

[Bananaman]

Got my test results back from Blackstone on my latest oil change. Still can't copy and paste it. Don't know why it won't do it.

Oil is Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40. 3rd oil change using it. Miles on JT. 47,260. Miles on oil, 7,130.

Though still a bit high, it's nice to see aluminum as stable as it is. Not every engine ends up wearing exactly the same and aluminum hasn't settled all that far from the average range. Other metals are stable as well, and after a
longer run that shows improvement in the wear rates (ppm per mile). There's nothing amiss in the physical properties. The TBN was 7.4 - plenty of active additive left considering 2.0 is what we call low. Feel free to stick with this oil.

Aluminum is 19. The last 3 oil change has been 19. Fuel in oil is <0.5%. Everything else is in the universal averages.

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This may be the Goldilocks oil.
Priced reasonably, CK-4, and SN rated, and the jugs I got in today have a ACEA rating of E7, E11, which should be low SAPS.

 

[jywolfe]

Wanted share a few findings related to Valvoline 5w40 European Oil and it's clone, the NAPA 5w40 European formula. This started out with a Black Friday sale at Valvoline and NAPA. I found I was able to order the Valvoline 5w40 European formula for $89.59 for a 5 gallon bulk box (when I ordered 4 boxes), which works out to $4.48/quart plus tax. I was considering the NAPA because the two oils are purportedly clones, but the price of the Valvoline worked out to be a little less expensive. I initially had some confusion because Valvoline's online app indicated the oil meets the specification for my vehicle, but the PDS didn't show MS-12991. I contacted Valvoline and requested clarification and they sent me a recommendation letter indicating it meets the requirements of MS-12991. To my surprise, Valvoline has also released a Valvoline branded oil filter for around $10.50 per unit. The item number is VO207. I've attached files below for reference.

 

[Vtur]

Wanted share a few findings related to Valvoline 5w40 European Oil and it's clone, the NAPA 5w40 European formula. This started out with a Black Friday sale at Valvoline and NAPA. I found I was able to order the Valvoline 5w40 European formula for $89.59 for a 5 gallon bulk box (when I ordered 4 boxes), which works out to $4.48/quart plus tax. I was considering the NAPA because the two oils are purportedly clones, but the price of the Valvoline worked out to be a little less expensive. I initially had some confusion because Valvoline's online app indicated the oil meets the specification for my vehicle, but the PDS didn't show MS-12991. I contacted Valvoline and requested clarification and they sent me a recommendation letter indicating it meets the requirements of MS-12991. To my surprise, Valvoline has also released a Valvoline branded oil filter for around $10.50 per unit. The item number is VO207. I've attached files below for reference.

Thanks for the info. Just like the Wix filter, it's no where to be found.

 

[jywolfe]

They are in stock here: VO207
$10.49 per filter.

 

[Minty JL]

Remember K.I.S.S

Just use the OEM shit and be done

 

[Teqsand]

TL:DR: Amsoil exceeds MS-12991 and therefore cannot list it on the label as meeting it as it does not exactly meet the criteria. I would wager that FCA would deny a warranty claim because they couldn't be bothered to research if Amsoil exceeded the standard and its not listed on the label. However, the two last pages say a label change is coming... Essentially that's it in a nutshell.

Exceeding absolutely means it met the criteria and went past it.... I'm calling BULLSHIT on the above post..... if it meets or exceeds then it should be noted on the produ t, that word salad screams it doesn't meet ms-12991

 

[Teqsand]

They are in stock here: VO207
$10.49 per filter.

Anyone tried them?

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