Reaching out to those doing their own shock tuning?

[813 Fabrication & Design]

It looked like all of them were available in black, but only some in teal. Come-on man........get some hot pink/seafoam Oakleys and iridium lenses to match!

Thier heavy fronts (100-200lb extra) might be close for a stock diesel JT! I'm afraid with my Rockslide steps, Zeon winch and diesel, my trucks front axle could be 300-400 over a gas truck?

Yea, the 80's looking springs are not something I love but at least my company logo has blue in it and once I get my graphics on the truck they may match more :-D I have the ALu-Cab Canopy Camper, winch, Rockslide but I am a gasser. I had the Fox 2.5 shocks and Dobinson coils installed this week. A big improvement with body flex over the Mopar 2" lift shocks and springs. It has been really cold this week so everything squeaks a bit over speed bumps. I need to test the adjustment of the shocks and dial them in. I will probably get to that some next week. I need to get under and double check all the torque specs of the Steer Smarts items that were installed also.

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[CrazyCooter]

Spoke with a rep at Dobinson's this morning and he says they have a coil coming soon for the EcoDiesel front.........He said 2-3 weeks, but I would guess in this market that's an optimistic time line.

 

[CrazyCooter]

1400+ mile overlanding trip to Death Valley in the books! Suspension performed well, but I have to get springs before the next trip......

As usual, the guys were irritated with my pace and one actually said he thought im driving wreckless. Pretty easy to average 3-5 mph faster in a sand wash and put big distance between us when your vehicle drives nice!

Made another change to the rear shocks this week....I think I've been into the shocks 10 times? Installed the JKS tunable links this weekend and Clayton springs are on the way.

 

[Rusty PW]

I was wondering how you was making out with this. ?

 

[CrazyCooter]

I was wondering how you was making out with this. ?

Forward progress!

It will be interesting to see how springs change things. Clayton says the rear springs are close to OE rate so hope to be good there. Their fronts are 188lb and I'm pretty sure the Evos I have are about 120. I held off this week on making any front changes as I wanted to add more low speed compression and have enough rebound for now.....that might be OK with the new springs or I might have too much compression and not enough rebound afterward?

Breaking my rule about not making any changes 2 weeks or less before a trip, but it can't be worse than it was before I started?

I did hit 90mph on a sandy road in the desert and decided she needed more rebound out back. I was dictating notes to my phone all week.

 

[PackMule]

It was actually Dec of 2020 for me too.......no ecodiesel in 2020 models...duh!

I'd suggest a spring/shock spacer front lift if you can source one in stock and then some bump spacer if you are trying to fit 37s. Minimal investment till the right stuff is available.

Timbrens and Sumos are too limiting to the uptravel for trail use, plus the rear area that they occupy is now taken by my air bumps. You want to amplify the front bottoming, add those to the rear! Just 5-10psi while unloaded has me bouncing off the front air bumps.

Yes, I'm not thinking of going Sumos on the fronts to maximize travel, and plan on air bumps there. Sumos are advertised to retain 85% of the travel, and they are in essence dual rate springs, so I'm trying them out on the back. I put the 1400lb ones on the rear, and they improved the floaty ride, and eliminated a lot of sway, even under moderate loads. Wish I would have done it earlier. Should give me a lot more stability when hauling my 4k lb trailer. I'm just thinking this should be a good solution since I'm using my truck as a daily driver so might not want HD rear springs, and moderate wheeling... but don't see myself to doing 90mph on forest service roads. ;-)

I'll have a chance in late April in Moab to see if I've lost enough travel to make a difference when wheeling.

 

[CrazyCooter]

Yes, I'm not thinking of going Sumos on the fronts to maximize travel, and plan on air bumps there. Sumos are advertised to retain 85% of the travel, and they are in essence dual rate springs, so I'm trying them out on the back. I put the 1400lb ones on the rear, and they improved the floaty ride, and eliminated a lot of sway, even under moderate loads. Wish I would have done it earlier. Should give me a lot more stability when hauling my 4k lb trailer. I'm just thinking this should be a good solution since I'm using my truck as a daily driver so might not want HD rear springs, and moderate wheeling... but don't see myself to doing 90mph on forest service roads. ;-)

I'll have a chance in late April in Moab to see if I've lost enough travel to make a difference when wheeling.

Keep in mind that the Sumos will absolutely amplify the dioesel front bottoming issue especially when twisting/transferring weight when they are in contact with the axle. I can totally see how they would make a hauling/towing experience more stable since you are contating them under the load and effectively increasing spring rate.

I actually just ordered a set of Sumos for a client with an Xterra for a simple no maintenance towing enhancement.

 

[PackMule]

Keep in mind that the Sumos will absolutely amplify the dioesel front bottoming issue especially when twisting/transferring weight when they are in contact with the axle. I can totally see how they would make a hauling/towing experience more stable since you are contating them under the load and effectively increasing spring rate.

I actually just ordered a set of Sumos for a client with an Xterra for a simple no maintenance towing enhancement.

Good points.
I know I need to address the front end. I've got a clayton 2.5" lift going on in about a month, and air bumps in front. Just wish I could get shocks... I want to either get Falcon 3.3's or Fox 2.5 adjustables, but they are infinitely backordered. Going to have to go with shock extensions in the interim.

 

[CrazyCooter]

Good points.
I know I need to address the front end. I've got a clayton 2.5" lift going on in about a month, and air bumps in front. Just wish I could get shocks... I want to either get Falcon 3.3's or Fox 2.5 adjustables, but they are infinitely backordered. Going to have to go with shock extensions in the interim.

There has also been discussion on the forum about the E-Clik shocks from SDI. For $5k, I might have a look myself......

 

[PackMule]

There has also been discussion on the forum about the E-Clik shocks from SDI. For $5k, I might have a look myself......

Just a quick look at their website, looks similar to the Falcon 3.5 aDAPT, which are dynamic/active sensor based at under $3k.... but infinite backlog. It would be interesting to see how they compare.

There are some youtube videos out there that demonstrate how the 3.5 aDAPTs work, as well as the E-Clik.

 

[rharr]

Just a quick look at their website, looks similar to the Falcon 3.5 aDAPT, which are dynamic/active sensor based at under $3k.... but infinite backlog. It would be interesting to see how they compare.

There are some youtube videos out there that demonstrate how the 3.5 aDAPTs work, as well as the E-Clik.

For the price of the SDI they may have some more advance electronic features. One thing I read was the SDI system will use active suspension to stabilize a jeep in a off camber situation. Ie stiffen down hill shocks and soften up hill shocks. Maybe the SDI has more advanced programing and sensor system?

We will have to wait and see what one of our members reports as he just bought the SDI system.

 

[CrazyCooter]

Just a quick look at their website, looks similar to the Falcon 3.5 aDAPT, which are dynamic/active sensor based at under $3k.... but infinite backlog. It would be interesting to see how they compare.

There are some youtube videos out there that demonstrate how the 3.5 aDAPTs work, as well as the E-Clik.

I don't know about you guys, but I don't want anything with the Teraflex label on my vehicle. Shitty joints, overly soft springs, and their other shocks are garbage. I'd have a hard time giving them $3K for the Falcons

 

[CrazyCooter]

I don't know about you guys, but I don't want anything with the Teraflex label on my vehicle. Shitty joints, overly soft springs, and their other shocks are garbage. I'd have a hard time giving them $3K for the Falcons

Then add in how much the YouTube "overloaders" push the product..........That right there is another reason for me to put the brakes on........I have to assume there is compensation involved. Just watching the uncontrolled wobbling in the video makes my neck hurt!

 

[PackMule]

Then add in how much the YouTube "overloaders" push the product..........That right there is another reason for me to put the brakes on........I have to assume there is compensation involved. Just watching the uncontrolled wobbling in the video makes my neck hurt!

I won't doubt your comments relative to the base terraflex stuff (springs, shocks, control arms with johnny joints, etc.).

But Falcons might be a different story. Here's a vid on a tear-down comparison of Fox 2.0 remote reservoir adjustable, and Falcon 3.3 adjustables at pretty much the same price point. Looks like they compare at or better than Fox 2.0. Since you've been inside your 2.5's you might offer how that would compare.



... and yes... the guy is an overloader...so I will add grains of salt.

 

[Fungshui]

Clayton said the diesel suspension kit will be ready in April.

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