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Hey don’t knock the laser pointers. They’ve been used MANY times to light up a room when a team is using night vision goggles. Overwatch puts a tiny red dot through an opening and that whole room is like daylight.
 

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Wheels guns are making a come back, seeing more and more young shooters using them in competition. A couple guys I shoot with will give average semiauto shooters a beating in a match. A lot more work and the gear is not cheap.
I used to shoot bowling pins. I've seen some wheel guys just blow everyone else away.
 

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I used to shoot bowling pins. I've seen some wheel guys just blow everyone else away.
Yep!! Cheap and effective if you have a bowling alley nearby. Good for follow on shots to practice getting back on target. They stay together surprisingly well with .308. :surprised:
 

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Yep!! Cheap and effective if you have a bowling alley nearby. Good for follow on shots to practice getting back on target. They stay together surprisingly well with .308. :surprised:
Bowling pins take a lot of abuse before falling apart.
 

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Bowling pins take a lot of abuse before falling apart.
Yeah, but Walter in the next lane over gets really pissed if you shoot during his approach, especially on league night.
 

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Rather short sighted thinking anyone who trains in self defense or carries a firearm is doing so because they lack self confidence or are just plain scared.

I would rather be prepared to not so much protect myself but to protect others that cannot, sort of the same reason I pack more tools and stuff for a trail run than I will likely need. That way I can help someone else who was not scared of breaking down get off the trail.
Grew up in the big bad NYC . Still not afraid and I know plenty of people older than me who aren't.
 

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Depends on the state. You can still ride in the back of a truck or ride a motorcycle with no helmet in AZ. It's dumb, but it's not law. All of those things, including firearms, most of us will never actually need. Those that do are glad they had them. Those that didn't have them found out the hard way when it was too late. It's not hard to be prepared just in case. I also have 0 desire to prove my manhood in a fight with a bear, mountain lion, or other critters we often encounter out wheeling/camping. Better to have and not need than the other way.
No one is threatening your manhood. I don't feel the need to carry a gun. Ever. I have a brother who lived a soft life who collects firearms and goes to a TRT clinic. So I will say the same thing that I tell him "change the channel(S)" because I tend to live what's left of my life and not train so I can be in a constant state of fear.
I rode a motorcycle until I couldn't. Sometimes with a helmet sometimes without but I had insurance. If you accidentally kill someone are you insured? Is the weapon insured?
I choose not to make that mistake and gun owners can't stand it.
 

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No one is threatening your manhood. I don't feel the need to carry a gun. Ever. I have a brother who lived a soft life who collects firearms and goes to a TRT clinic. So I will say the same thing that I tell him "change the channel(S)".
I rode a motorcycle until I physically couldn't. Sometimes with a helmet sometimes without but I had insurance. If you accidentally kill someone is the weapon insured?
I choose not to make that mistake. As I got older an wiser I always wore a helmet and riding only put me in danger.
 

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No one is threatening your manhood. I don't feel the need to carry a gun. Ever. I have a brother who lived a soft life who collects firearms and goes to a TRT clinic. So I will say the same thing that I tell him "change the channel(S)" because I tend to live what's left of my life and not train so I can be in a constant state of fear.
I rode a motorcycle until I couldn't. Sometimes with a helmet sometimes without but I had insurance. If you accidentally kill someone are you insured? Is the weapon insured?
I choose not to make that mistake and gun owners can't stand it.
Insurance won't put your head back on because you wanted to look cool on your motorcycle. Just like Insurance won't replace you or a loved one if you needed a firearm. Yes I'm insured, but if it comes down to choosing stuff or defending my family, I'll see you in court. Being prepared isn't living in fear no matter how many times you parrot it. I train because it's fun and I hope to never have to use a firearm defensively. Same goes for the seat belt, life insurance, the fire extinguishers in our Jeeps and home, etc. I guess in your world I'm afraid of fires and car accidents too?
 

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I train because it's fun
I was about to post something, and then I saw it right here.

I think if you find it legitimately fun and enjoyable to weapons train, and it's not impacting some other part of your life negatively, then being prepared sounds great. It doesn't sound like being scared to me. It sounds like a hobby that hopefully never has to benefit you other than being a way you enjoy spending time.

Maybe if someone was weapons training, it was negatively impacting them in some fashion (financial, time, whatever) and they were going down a path of paranoia - maybe that would be different? IDK.

For me, I have always enjoyed the idea of doing some weapons training, but time / money / care enough just hasn't been there yet. I have no formal training other than what I have received from a few concealed carry classes over the years, and I spent quite a bit of time going to the range, once upon a time. It's just something we enjoyed.

My buddy and I would go to the firearms store all the time and be like 'I'll buy this one if you buy that one". Spent a lot of money 🤣

Quick little story though...

Some years ago me and the ole lady were sleeping when I heard this crashing sound in the living room. Sounded like someone breaking out a window almost. I jumped up, grabbed the 870 that leans up in the corner by the bed, clicked off the safety (it stays chambered) and peaked into the hall - didn't see anything. Leveled the shotgun and went down the hall and turned into the living room.

It was a bundle of foil balloons that got loose and floated into the ceiling fan and was making one hell of a noise 🤣

I safety the 870 and turn on the light, turn off the fan. Heart is POUNDING. Tell the ole lady coast is clear. She comes up and sees the problem and starts LAUGHING.

I was just standing there thinking to myself:

"Man that was sure was cool that you jumped up and was gonna stand on business like that"

But then I was like:

"WTF WERE YOU GONNA DO IF IT WASNT BALLOONS?!"

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Grew up in the big bad NYC . Still not afraid and I know plenty of people older than me who aren't.
Now I understand your avatar, that is where you are speaking from. Please Mr tough guy from NYC take pity on us poor weaklings that live in fear our whole lives.:headbang:
 

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Now I understand your avatar, that is where you are speaking from. Please Mr tough guy from NYC take pity on us poor weaklings that live in fear our whole lives.:headbang:
5 minutes of researching actual self defense situations will tell you that nobody is defending themselves barehanded against multiple assailants, drugged up psychos, or armed individuals. It's always the old guy, probably hasn't been in a physical altercation in decades if ever, that thinks they can. Meanwhile you have 200 pound ufc fighters describing defending themselves against a single attacker as the most brutal physical altercation they've ever been in. Odds are none of us will ever have a home invader let alone several, but it's better to be prepared in my opinion.
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